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7.62x54r for hunting

Discussion in 'Big Game Hunting' started by cooker300, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. cooker300

    cooker300 G&G Evangelist

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    What are your guys thoughts on this caliber for a hunting caliber?

    I know its somewhere between the 308 and 30-06 in the power class.

    Im thinking about using it for whitetail which i know it will do the job.

    But also black bear the bear in the area i hunt run anywere from cub's up to maybe 450-600# being on the top end of the scale.

    I also applied for a PA elk tag will this caliber handle all of this?

    I will be using my hand loads 180gr Sierra game kings .311 dia. with a good charge of IMR 4350. and the rifle is a 43 IZZY 91/30 with a scout scope.


     
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    10/22fan38 G&G Addict

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    The 7.62x54r would be a fine hunting round for all the critters you mentioned.
     
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    rando G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

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    Cooker Im sure you will come up with a nice load for accuracy and performance. Hope you get selected for the Elk permit. The 7.62x54 is close to the 30.06 and should handle about all North American game and will work for PA. large game for sure. I know in your area you can come across some bigger black bear. With proper shot placements you should have no problems. Let me know if you get your elk permit. Randy
     
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    cooker300 G&G Evangelist

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    thanks guys
    my load is shooting a rough 1" @ 100. which i think is pretty good for a 69 y/o battle rifle.

    i do have newer rifles but im feeling nastalgic this year.

    randy will do.
     
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  5. Cyrano

    Cyrano Resident Curmudgeon Forum Contributor

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    cooker, there is not a game animal in the world that the 7.62x54R round is incapable of taking down, up to and including an African elephant. It's a matter of the load. You can handload anything you like, of course, but the available commercial softpoint loads range from 147 grain to 203 grain. Our members in Alaska who have used the Mighty Mosin for hunting have reported one shot kills using commercial ammo, including drop-right-there shots. The exit wounds are impressive. There is more than a little truth to the joke that when hunting with a Mosin, you can shoot through the tree the elk is hiding behind and still kill it, the round has such power.

    180 grain SP would be fine for elk or bear. A handloaded jacketed hollowpoint might be even better. A 147 grain SP will do perfectly well for whitetail, and with good shot placement would certainly have enough power to drop an elk. The Mosin is both powerful enough and accurate enough for North American hunting.
     
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    cooker300 G&G Evangelist

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    Cyrano
    thank you
    i went with the sierra 180's gamekings because at the time it was all i could find that were .311 diamiter. after i slugged my bore. and doing reading that the mosin original bullet weight of 174. and mine is shooting a 3 shot group of 1.05" @ 100 with this bullet.

    hopefully i wont have to shoot threw anytrees to harvest game.
     
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  7. toolman

    toolman Resident Sasquatch Forum Contributor

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    I hunted with my scout-scoped M-44 for several years. A little story for ya: Several years ago I was sitting in the blind not really expecting much to be moving because the wind was insane. Eventually a little doe jumped the fence and started feeding along the edge of the cotton field and, about 10-15 min. later, a nice mature doe followed. I was a bit hesitant to shoot because it was about 175 yds and the only ammo I had was some 204 gr. Barnaul (I had ran out of my handloads) which I hadn't sighted the gun with, even though I knew they shot well out to 100.
    I finally decided to take her and settled the crosshairs right at the top of her neck while she had her head down and squeezed the trigger. When I looked, there was nothing except a flash of white back in the trees and I figured I'd missed.
    I gathered my stuff and started walking that direction to get to the truck and lo and behold, there she was, in a huge puddle of blood with her head laying at an odd angle. when I looked, it was easy to see why-the bullet had blown several vertebrae through the off-side of her neck, leaving a softball-sized hole-sure made it easy to get the head off!
     
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  8. K75RT

    K75RT G&G Enthusiast

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    My son-in-laws brother took this big buck using a 91/30 open iron sights with a Prvi Partizen 203gr soft point.

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  9. cooker300

    cooker300 G&G Evangelist

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    nice deer
     
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  10. 9mmXDm

    9mmXDm Suspended

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    Do you need a shooting partner? LOL I'll bring my Mosin Nagant too!
     
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  11. 99dragon99

    99dragon99 G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

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    I shot a black bear with my M44 and Winchester 180gr. Went straight through. I wish I would have hit a rib or something, but nope between the ribs on both sides.

    The bear ran about 25 yards and that was adrenalin. It was only a 3 year old, but I wouldn't hesitate using on a biggun.
     
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  12. mouser868

    mouser868 G&G Evangelist

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    I've used my M44 with 203gr Silver Bear ammo on 2 deer, one on a buck that dropped in its tracks and one on a doe that ran about 30 yards. Both shots were about 80 yards. I have also used my M38 using handloads with 150gr PRVI bullets and shot a spike buck at 125 yards that ran about 40 yards and then piling up. Seems to be a good cartridge from my experience, proof was in the freezer.
     
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    cooker300 G&G Evangelist

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    99&868
    thanks
     
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  14. Imakethings

    Imakethings G&G Newbie

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    Since there aren't any pictures of how the 7.62x54R does in gel anymore, take a look at these.

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    Brown Bear 203gr

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    Czech Silver Tip

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    Igman 150gr

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    Winchester 180gr

    All of these gel blocks are approx 15 inches long and were shot at a distance of about 25 yards. Brassfetcher.com doesn't have them up anymore, but that's where they originated.

    To sum up, yeah it will do fine for hunting.
     
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    Tack Driver G&G Evangelist

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    I know they aren't a big game animal but my fishing buddy shot 2 coyotes this week at 50 and 100 yds with his Mosin using Sellior & Bellot soft points and it made a really big mess to put it nicely
     
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  16. AlaskaMosin

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    I have used my unmodified 91/30, with open sights for moose here in AK. The load was the Winchester 180 grain soft point. Shot was at 142 yards. It never took a step, but took about 20 seconds to fall over from the lung shot. Bullet performance was poor, as those loads aren't using the highest quality bullets. I'm reloading the cases now with Sierra Game King 180 grain, .311 size.
     
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  17. variolamajor

    variolamajor G&G Evangelist

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    Anything you can kill with a 30-06 can be had with the 7.62x54R and quality bullets. o_O
     
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  18. texnmidwest

    texnmidwest Sir Loin of Beef Forum Contributor

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    I shot a yellow plastic saxophone with my M39. Wasn't much left but rubble when I found it in the snow.

    The saxophone toy deserved it......it was driving Ninja Piper more insane than he already is!
     
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  19. grizcty

    grizcty God, Guns, Glory

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    Speaking of Ninja Piper,

    Where has he been hiding at?
    Hopefully he is doing good, and he is still practicing the bag pipes. banana-with-bagpipes-smiley-emoticon.gif
     
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  20. MosinRuger

    MosinRuger G&G Evangelist

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    I bet those Sierra GK's will be devastating.
     
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