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A Classic is Reborn: The Return of the FN High Power 9mm Pistol
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Those look very nice. For the price conscious Springfield Armory recently introduced the SA 35 which is sort of a clone but with an MSRP of only $699.00.
SA-35 Handguns - Springfield Armory
SA-35 Handguns - Springfield Armory
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It looks like FN, Springfield Armory and and two Turkish firms, TISAS BR9 and Girsan MC P35
India also makes a copy called the Pistol Auto 9mm 1A It's a licensed copy of the Browning High Power made using tooling acquired from John Inglis and Co.. It is the main service pistol of Indian military and police units.
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Everyone....but Browning.
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Just an FYI, but these are still $439.95
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^^^ that one I mentioned is 20.74oz unless you want it loaded, then its 25.12oz.
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I like the hipower, and don't underestimate nostalgia, but firearm industries have had unprecedented sales for Two YEARS and all we get are relaunch of dead designs and a rehashed 32 for full frame (9mm length) guns?
I think the smith CSX is onto something focusing on what smith fans want BACK in the size/weight the market demands. Hipower could do the same in a subcompact aluminum frame and do well, or even better in a new micro compact size, optics ready. Not seeing it yet.
FN, HK, and Colt are continuing to practically ignore the civilian market in favor of military sales when the US public buys more guns than the worlds militaries combined. It's ludicrous.
I think the smith CSX is onto something focusing on what smith fans want BACK in the size/weight the market demands. Hipower could do the same in a subcompact aluminum frame and do well, or even better in a new micro compact size, optics ready. Not seeing it yet.
FN, HK, and Colt are continuing to practically ignore the civilian market in favor of military sales when the US public buys more guns than the worlds militaries combined. It's ludicrous.
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I always preferred the Radom. I also wish I had bought an FEG clone back when they were $250.
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Well, yeah.
Even the "new" designs are nothing but Edwardian and Victorian design shoved into plastic, and a few guns based on improvements of World War II and interwar designs. The only real innovators are companies you don't hear of, because they are working out of a basement, or are in former com-bloc countries. And Laugo, and KelTec, and arguably Grand Power and TNW. Is Calico still around?
I keep reading these articles about these great wonder-whiz designs, and when they actually show how it works, I realize I have seen it all before; Browning, the Koucky brothers, the Kratochville brothers, Huebner, Ribeyrolles, Sutter and Chauchat, Fyodorov, Degtyrov, Simonov, the Feederle brothers, Bang, Vorgrmler, etc.
Copy someone's writing, you are a plagiarist, but do it with guns and you are "innovative." Flat-out steal patents, and you are a "genius."
Guns these days are like movies; rehashes, remakes, re-releases, and sequels, or they are the Tarantino of guns - they steal whole chunks of earlier works, and mash them together into a collage, and critics clap like seals and proclaim greatness. Take a classic, strip it of charm, and craft, repackage it for a "modern audience" and call it a day.
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Nice! It is nice to see people making NICE high quality firearms again instead fighting their way to the bottom of cheapest plastic barrel every day. Not something you'll ever find in Walmart, for sure.
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Hot dang, I wish you were wrong.
The truth is, real innovation is exceedingly expensive. Getting a new design really worked out and market ready for a brand like FN is mind boggling.
Taking something you already know works, and dressing it up for the 2022 market is MUCH more profitable.
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"Innovation" is over rated.
Most times it amounts to changing a color, turning it upside down, and giving it a new name and doubling the price. All with a nice "pat on the back" for the owner's son "the great innovator".
If it works, it works and making it out of plastic next year doesn't mean it is better. Just cheaper.
Most times it amounts to changing a color, turning it upside down, and giving it a new name and doubling the price. All with a nice "pat on the back" for the owner's son "the great innovator".
If it works, it works and making it out of plastic next year doesn't mean it is better. Just cheaper.
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I think that is why Czechia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovakia, and Chechnya lead the world in thinking outside the box for guns these days. Investors have made "American" money on the world stage, and can invest back home where the cost of innovating is cheap. When $15,000 a year is considered middle class, or better, you can afford to put more into tooling and R&D. Most of these companies have government contracts that guarantee stability.
They don't have to listen to investors, lawyers, or "experts" telling them NOT to do something.
Similarly, Kel-Tec is pretty much a family business with loyal customers, and a mad genius at the helm. They can innovate because they have money, (and because George won't stop) and the techniques they utilize are fairly cheap.
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I've been looking for a Radom for decades. Never even have seen one, never mind found one I could buy! I've read rave reviews from people who have fired them and the design seems elegant. And it's a World War II pistol, which appeals to me.
My owning a Radom may have to wait until I win the lottery.
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There are always a few at the gun show, but they are leaping in price
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