...a little about the Clintons.

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by LarryO1970, May 25, 2008.

  1. ...a little about the Clintons...

    1 - James McDougal - Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
    2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
    3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
    4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
    5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
    6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992… Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor.”
    7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
    8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
    9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
    10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
    11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
    12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
    13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
    14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
    15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
    16 - Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
    17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
    18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death
    19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
    20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
    21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
    22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
    23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.
    24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
    25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
    26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
    27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
    28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.
    29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
    30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
    31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
    33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”
    34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
    35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
    THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan

    ... all seems a little too coincidental.
  2. Interesting isn't it ! I beleive a lot of it too.

  3. TXplt

    TXplt Gun Toting Boeing Driver Forum Contributor

    On #4, Mr. Brown (despite what else might have been going on) was killed in an aircraft accident. It was completely an unfortunate accident (CFIT) due to an improperly designed approach, a lack of training, weather at or near minimums, and a crew that lost positional awareness during a rushed and unstabilized approach.

    I can't speak to any of the rest. I personally would not like to be their friends or associated with them in any way.
  4. LiveToShoot

    LiveToShoot Guest

    Clear and present danger...with no candy coating!

    Oh, on #4...if it was an airplane accident that killed him, how come he had a bullet hole in the top of his head?

    Something evil this way comes, and it's written all over the billary machine...in large, bold, red letters.
  5. TXplt

    TXplt Gun Toting Boeing Driver Forum Contributor


    http://www.airmanshiponline.com/marzo2003/09-FSD-1996-07-08-Dubrovnik CFIT.pdf

    Crashes aren't real pretty. Singnifcant physical forces involved; it was never established in any way post mortem that accident injuries of anyone were inconsistent with blunt force trauma. There can be alot of "looks like" injuries after a crash caused simply by people bouncing off the ground, parts of the inside of the airplane, and each other. I don't like 'em either, but facts is facts.

  6. LiveToShoot

    LiveToShoot Guest

    Yes, I served as NCOIC of USAF Search and Recovery Teams in the UK and US...and as a mortuary affairs liaison, and right up front there are lots of possibilities and conditions in an aircraft crash... The morticians try to sort through the remains, dismembered, disassociated and charred as well, to try and put the complex puzzle together so needed questions can be answered.

    What's unique about this situation was that the mortician and the assistant saw what appeared to be a bullet wound and then great efforts were made to silence them...suspicious activity at the least.
    Last edited: May 25, 2008
  7. TXplt

    TXplt Gun Toting Boeing Driver Forum Contributor

    That may well be true; what I am saying is that Mr. Clinton, in the Ron Brown accident, had nothing whatsoever to do with the crash (other than way, way, way indirectly in the crew wanting to accomplish the mission despite a lack of training and equipment), and it was a non-survivable accident.

    I do believe they've done many other bad things, though. I believe we exported technology (resulting in Mr. Clinton's professional and personal--$--gain) that we should not have solely due to his position as president. I believe he hurt and intimidated people with whom he had personal "ties" through less than legal means. I believe he tried to gut our military capability to his fullest ability (which would have made a paid soviet agent proud). I KNOW he did lie to me, and was an absolutely wretched CinC, from my perspective.

    I always find it interesting during an election year to hear the candidates speak about our military and veterans (and it does sometimes make me cringe). I know it's not legal for someone on active duty to publically endorse a candidate; however, I'd really like to see an poll done across our armed forces to see who they'd want to be in office. Maybe the same for veterans. I think it'd be very telling. It also would cut thru alot ot the BS and speech making, I think.

    Never seen this done by the mainstream media, especially during the Clinton years. Maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough.
    Last edited: May 25, 2008
  8. AKHunter

    AKHunter G&G Newbie

    I find it astounding that are there are so many deaths connected to the Clintons by association...:hmmm:
  9. Arkiemike

    Arkiemike G&G Regular

    Well, it doesn't astound me! Way too many coincidents, don't you think?
  10. AKHunter

    AKHunter G&G Newbie

    Thus the reason for the...:hmmm:
  11. Yall be careful what you say about them Clintons !!! Folks just don't seem to live long that mess'es with them.
    I beleive Hillary is behind most of these killings. Oh Bill ain't got since enough to do stuff like this.
  12. Give it a rest, Larry. You can build a list like that about any public figure in the country--particularly if you're willing to exaggerate, stretch the truth and flat*** lie while you're doing it.

    If you actually cared about the truth, instead of just wanting to see the Clinton's bashed, the truth is out there. That list has been thoroughly debunked time after time after time, and it doesn't bother any of the True Believers...they just keep adding names to it instead.

    Go to snopes.com; they've gone through those names one by one. Not that it'll do any good; you'll just add them to the list of people who are part of the conspiracy and cover-up when it comes to your particular obsession.
  13. Larry, you should know better than to try to link Hillary or any of the Clintons to any conspiracy.....Why Hillary is a good Christian lady who could never do anything against the law...........


    "Clinton speaks of faith in face of adversity
    By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 29 minutes ago

    Hillary Rodham Clinton on Sunday offered a spiritual defense for continuing her presidential campaign, as she sought to put to rest the uproar over her comments about the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.
    Speaking to a full congregation at the Pabellon de la Victoria evangelical church, Clinton spoke in measured terms about faith in the face of adversity.
    "There isn't anything we cannot do together if we seek God's blessing and if we stay committed and are not deterred by the setbacks that often fall in every life," Clinton said.
    Clinton is campaigning for Puerto Rico's primary on June 1, which offers 55 pledged delegates to the national Democratic convention. The New York senator is expected to win the contest, thanks partly to her ties to the large Puerto Rican community in her home state.
    Clinton spoke of her determination to stay in the race despite trailing Illinois Sen. Obama, who picked up three more superdelegates in Hawaii on Sunday, giving him a total of 1,977 delegates, just 49 delegates short of the 2,026 needed to clinch the nomination. Clinton still has 1,779.
    "If I had listened to those who had been talking over the last several months we would not be having this campaign in Puerto Rico today," she said, alluding to calls during the past few months for her to drop out of the race and support Obama.
    "But I believe this is an opportunity unlike any in recent history for the needs and interests and diversity of the people of Puerto Rico to be in the spotlight. This is an opportunity to educate everyone about this wonderful place," Clinton said.
    In an op-ed piece in Sunday's New York Daily News, Clinton revisited her reference to the June 1968 assassination of Robert F. Kennedy during a meeting Friday with a South Dakota newspaper's editorial board when she was asked whether she would stay in the presidential race. Clinton's comments were sharply criticized, and she later said she regretted any offense she might have caused.

    On television Sunday, top advisers to both Clinton's and Obama's campaigns said they were moving on from the issue.
    "This issue is done," David Axelrod, Obama's top strategist, declared on ABC's "This Week."
    In London, meanwhile, former President Carter said Sunday that Clinton should abandon her battle by early June.
    "I'm a superdelegate, having been president before, and I think that a lot of us superdelegates will make a decision ... quite rapidly, after the final primary on June 3," Carter told Sky News. "I think at that point it will be time for her to give it up." Carter has not declared his preference.
    In Puerto Rico, Clinton took the stage after more than an hour of joyful noise — religious singing and dancing, led by an eight-piece band and 16-person chorus. Women and girls in bright red, blue and white dresses danced in front of Clinton, shaking tambourines as parishioners clapped and waved.
    Then it was off to a beach in Boqueron on the southwest coast, where Clinton was mobbed by vacationers, some still dripping wet from swimming. She also was treated to a traditional dance by girls in bright, multicolored tiered skirts.
    Clinton was spending the Memorial Day weekend campaigning in Puerto Rico, and may return before the primary. Obama campaigned in Puerto Rico on Saturday, but returned to the mainland to give a commencement address Sunday at Wesleyan University in Middletown, Conn.

    Obama urged the graduates to "make us believe again" by dedicating themselves to public service.
    "We may disagree as Americans on certain issues and positions, but I believe we can be unified in service to a greater good. I intend to make it a cause of my presidency, and I believe with all my heart that this generation is ready and eager and up to the challenge," he said.
    The Illinois senator filled in for Edward M. Kennedy, the longtime Massachusetts senator who had planned to deliver the graduation address to a class that includes his stepdaughter, Caroline Raclin. He backed out after being diagnosed last week with a cancerous brain tumor.
    Kennedy has endorsed Obama, who peppered the speech with references to the Kennedy legacy, including John F. Kennedy urging Americans to ask what they can do for their country, the Peace Corps and Robert Kennedy, to whom Obama has been compared."
    ___ Associated Press writer Christopher Wills in Middletown, Conn., contributed to this report.

    Copyright © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


  14. 9mmfan, if you've paid attention to what I post you know I don't like the lady, and I'm not voting for her.

    But these idiotic conspiracy theories that people have gotten rich peddling over the years are an insult to my intelligence...:)
  15. Hey, I'm just joking around, I didn't know anyone had gotten rich off of peddling conspiracy theories about the Clinton's. I wonder how much money Monica Lewinsky has received.
    Maybe if Hillary gets in the White House she could get her own escort, I bet she would have to pay him a lot of money though......a whole lot of money........lol.
    Last edited: May 26, 2008
  16. Oh yeah...people made a ton of money over the years, peddling videos about the Clintons. And the more absurd and paranoid they were, the better they sold.

    I don't think Monica needed any money, though; her daddy had plenty. Last I heard she was going for her master's in social psychology, over in England somewhere.
  17. killer

    killer G&G Newbie

    Haaaaa....so many punch lines for that one but I already have one violation so I best keep my mouth shut.
  18. Yeah, according to Hillary, the whole Monica thing was a right wing conspiracy........
    [​IMG] How can you have a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" without a screen saver?
    Click on the image to see how you can get one too.
  19. killer

    killer G&G Newbie

    It won't link...that body is way too skinny for Miss Monica.

    Dang it...you almost got me to bite and say something, and that will be strike two.