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Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Doglips, Aug 4, 2002.

  1. Doglips

    Doglips G&G Newbie

    This impressed me in that it is one of the rare times the Media people actualy speek some sensable stuff....

    Missing Lynx
    Are Animals More Important Than People?

    Commentary
    By John Stossel



    Aug. 2 — "We need water! We need water!" That's the refrain from farmers up in Klamath Falls, Ore. Their fields have dried up, and some farmers have even lost their farms — all because of a fish known as the short-nosed sucker.


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    There's a lake full of water in Klamath Falls, but last year the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service ordered the irrigation gates from the lake closed — meaning 1,000 farmers could not water their crops.
    The agency's bureaucrats closed the gates because the short-nosed sucker, one of the fish found in the lake, is listed as endangered. There are lots of sucker fish in America, but the bureaucrats decided this species of suckers needed protection. They said keeping a certain amount of water in the lake was critical to the suckers' survival.

    "They're stealing these people's land. It's not right," said one man at a protest rally last summer. "Give 'em their water back! You're destroying lives here!"

    The farmers' neighbors came to their aid. Breaking the law, they jumped a fence and opened the floodgates.

    Then the police came and stood watch while the bureaucrats closed the gates again. The police stayed all summer guarding the valves.

    "They are destroying 1,400 families over a fish that is not really even in trouble out here," said another man at the protest.

    Not even in trouble? Well, oops, it turns out that as far as water levels go, that's true. The National Research Council now says the sucker didn't need as much water as the government environmentalists claimed. The farmers could have had some of their precious water.

    So did Fish and Wildlife apologize to the farmers? No.The farmers say government's biologists don't seem very concerned about people.

    "This country has placed more value upon a fish than on its own citizens," said farmer Stan Thompson.

    Lynx Study Irks Locals

    Really? Government wildlife experts would value animals over humans? Maybe. After all, look what they did with the Canada lynx. The lynx is an explosive issue. An environmental group even burned down a ski lodge in Vail because they thought it might threaten the lynx.

    There are tens of thousands of these adorable animals throughout North America, but because the bureaucrats weren't sure there were any of them in southern Washington state, they commissioned $1 million study to find out.

    To try to lure the lynx they hung shiny pans from trees. They placed pieces of carpet soaked with a catnip mixture on the trees, hoping the lynx would then rub up against them and leave some fur. Sure enough, the samples the biologists sent to the lab contained hairs from a Canada Lynx.

    Finding a threatened species can set in motion a series of events that can wreck your life if you're a rancher or farmer, and spoil a vacation if you're someone who wants to drive into the woods. "Area closed" can be the result when endangered species are found. Ranchers worried that the lynx could do to them what the sucker fish did to the farmers in Klamath Falls.

    "It would have definitely jeopardized my family operation, put us out of business," said one Washington rancher, Neil Kaiser.

    Lots of people in southern Washington are scared of the government's environmental police.

    "We basically say if you have an endangered species in your area, we are going to take your livelihood away, we're going to destroy your communities, and we're going to make it very difficult for your families to survive," said Mike Paulson, a local land rights activist.

    That didn't happen in this case because it turned out the government's biologist faked the tests. The lynx hair sent to the lab came from a lynx who lived in a cage at a tourist attraction where people pay $8 to see animals — miles away from where the biologists claimed they found the hair.

    "The only reason that this came to light is because a retiring employee... blew the whistle," said Jim Beers, a retired biologist who was with the Department of Fish and Wildlife for 30 years. Beers says he's seen his agency change from promoting science to pushing fanatical environmentalism.

    "The agencies today are staffed with environmental radical activists," he told me, adding that these activists do not want people to use the forests.

    Keeping Forests Clear of People

    Beers says that one way to keep the forest free of people is to find endangered species.

    "Once you establish that there are any lynx in the area and you say there were some lynx over in this area or there, the areas in between suddenly become very urgent to not allow the road to be built, not allow the ski slope to come in... not allow grazing... ultimately, not to let you or I drive our wives and kids in for a picnic," Beers said.

    The government agencies involved wouldn't talk to us about any of this, but they do call the conduct of the biologists "unacceptable" and "not authorized."

    That sounds serious. So were the biologists then fired? No. When do governments fire anybody? The biologists were verbally counseled; they still have jobs.

    The biologists also have an explanation; they say they weren't trying to cheat, they were just testing the labs to make sure they could identify lynx fur. The locals don't buy that.

    "That's not even a good excuse," said Barbara Paulson, Mike Paulson's wife and a writer for the Franklin County Graphic in southeastern Washington. "They should think of something better than that."

    "It's not a mistake. It's dishonesty," said Mike Paulson.

    Beers doesn't buy it either.

    "That's the same as you telling me that you caught them walking out of the bank with money and they said, 'Oh, we were just seeing if the system works here, we were going to return it tomorrow,'" he said.

    It makes me wonder what other parts of their science we don't know the truth about.

    When extremists get to give orders with the power of government, then everyone's freedom is at risk. Give me a break.
     
  2. Klaus

    Klaus G&G Newbie

    I think the lynx they are referring to is your regular bobcat.
     

  3. Oxford

    Oxford G&G Evangelist

    unethical beaurocat at work again

    This is another example of a bureaucrat sc rew ing the public. He should have been fired for unethical behavior.

    I believe Klaus is right in that the lynx is merely a bobcat.

    Oxford

    :nod:
     
  4. A natural occurance

    It is a natural thing for species to go extinct if they do not cope with their changing environment.

    Also, we are always hearing about some species or another that is endangered, then we protect them sensless, then they overrun their nice in the ecosystem and their very existence threatens the natural balance with worse consequences than them being endangered in the first place.

    An example? The Cormorant on the Great Lakes. This bird was not even a native animal. It did help sound the alarm for the pollution troubles on the Great Lakes in the 60's.

    However, it has been protected and has been enabled to become so prevelant that they are now forcing native birds into jeopardy. They overrun nesting areas, their droppings destroy vegetation and keep other birds and animals away. They are raising caine on juvinile and young fish in the rivers and the shallows of the Great Lakes. Yet they are protected still. This is akin to Austrailia protecting rabbits or feral housecats!

    Okay, the shortnosed sucker is (may be) endangered. When was this figured out?

    It is another ploy of the tree huggers to manipulate studies to their advantage. Say they recently found this sucker, but it is rare. They cry endangered and fool with the water levels in a resevoir that was developed for power and to irrigate crops. And get it wrong in the process and ruin families livelyhood.

    I say, open the gates, maintain a balance between agriculture and this stupid little fish, or at least try to.

    These scientist type tree huggers DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU, YOUR FAMILY OR ANYONE ELSE! You must remember that. If we held a ballot initiative and 89% of the voters said open the gates and smoke the fish, we would still loose as the tree huggers believe we do not know what we are saying, and cannot do what's best for the environment. After all, they went to college and all the lectures and protests for these things, you did not.

    The PC human race is what happens when natural selection is no longer and issue.
     
  5. wes

    wes G&G Newbie

    In Klamath Falls these farmer's own the dam,in 1905 they paid for the building of it so they could farm the area. The sucker fish are not native to this area and really only need a few inches of water to live in.
    The local Police Chief did not stop the farmer's from opening the gates,the Federal govt. sent BLM Officer's,(supposedly with automatic weapons),to make sure they didn't open the gates again. Last I heard,over 50% of the farmer's are out of the business.
     
  6. Chris

    Chris Administrator Staff Member

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    This is rather funny, We need water water, while their crops are drying up.....I can only imagine...

    Well it shows you people say and what really is are two different things.
     
  7. Well my dad and I used to call in bobcat when we lived in New Mexico. The lynx have tufts of hair on the tips of their ears--the bobcat do not. Show me a picture and I will know the difference. The lynx tend to be more aggressive. As far as endangered species--let's put them on the extinct list and be done with it. This is totally ludicrous. Man losing land over a sucker fish. Who is really the sucker?