Abuse or misuse of legal authority?

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Dale, Aug 8, 2002.

  1. I don't know what the extent of news coverage is for everyone in here but I am watching a case out of New Jersey where a man is being criminally tried because his friend drove DUI and killed two persons.

    Basically the trial is over the fact the man being tried knew his buddy was drunk when he let him go his way and didn't do anything about it. Sorta like suing a bar owner because they served a patron to the point of intoxication and that patron does something under the influence.

    Anyway, not only is the case perplexing and may have nationwide influence on other states' judicial system but it also sets the stage so that your civil liberties and rights might begin to erode.

    That's one point of interest but the other point that has me pizzed off is the jury, who reached a deadlock, was ordered by the Judge back into deliberation and to come up with a verdict.

    It seems to me that when a Judge does that he/she is undermining the principles of the contitution and idea of a fair and IMPARTIAL trial by a jury of your peers.

    If the Judge is able to order a verdict then the Judge is essentially directing the outcome of the trial and, in essence, is finding the guy guilty if the jury is coerced and they vote guilty to get it over. Or, if the jury votes not guilty when the person being tried deserves punishment.

    I hope the jury members have enough sense and havos to deliberate according to the facts and what their hearts tell them and not what the Judge tells them to do.

    With the onset of mandatory sentencing in a lot of felony cases the Judges lost a lot of leaway in how their courtrooms were to be handled and to what extent their powers were. Because of that, I think, soem Judges strike out by establishing power in other ways.....such as in this case.
  2. If this is the same case that I am thinking about--he was released from jail while intoxicated.--who is to blame? Here in Texas a bartender can be held liable for serving a intoxicated person. After getting out of jail the friend dropped drunk friend off to get his vehicle. I am not sure--who's to blame.


    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    We had a guy here in Toledo who went to a bar and got drunk. Then he went to another bar 45 minutes before closing time and drank some more. Got in his pickup, swerved off the road and crashed through a 70 yr old mans bedroom. He didn't hurt the elderly gentleman but the sheer excitement caused the man to have a heart attack and drop dead at the scene. The drunk got charged with manslaughter and is now locked up for 5 - 7 yrs with chance of parole in 4 yrs. The drunk is also in the process of sueing the bar he was LAST at for 1 million dollars. He claims if they hadn't served him he wouldn't of crashed and the elderly man wouldn't be dead now! How crappy is that? Another case of not wanting to take responsibility for your OWN actions!
  4. That's what happens when the bad guy lives. Joe how's your garage coming. Well my yard is the same. And now it's almost sunset--darn.

    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    You mean ya didn't do anything? For shame bro, for shame. I didn't get real far either, hung up the signs then the wife wanted to check out a antique store in Michigan so off we went! WOMEN!
  6. Cool-- my wife loves the antique stores here in town. Gun shows are better. And yes I didn't do nothing. I feel real bad , I'll sleep on it and do the yard before work tommorrow. Have to be there by 6:00 am -- do you think the neighbors will mind. Ok maybe next day off.