Aircraft - what is it?

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  1. Rex in OTZ

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    I couldent just sit idly by without trying aircraft 'What is It?'



    So where is it from and what is this aircraft?
     

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    Russian MIG-21
     
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    looks like a mig-15 prototype, prop driven while they developed the jet engine.
     
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    Russian all right, but looks more like a Sukhoi SU-7 to me.
     
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    Bob, after looking more closely, you may be right. That does resemble a radial engine in the nose.
     
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    Well you can take Mig 15 off the list. The cockpit is too far back. All Migs even the early prototypes have the cockpit dang close to the nose of the aircraft.
     
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    Cowling too small for radial
     
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    can't find it, but the high tail screams MIG and the cockpit may be back because of the prop engine.
     
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    I am currently looking through a list of every early military jet ever flown by any country. Starting from WW2 and going forward. The only thing is I don't think its British or U.S. as the early jets were mostly Dual propulsion systems with prop and jet.
     
  10. Rex in OTZ

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    You guys are close!!

    Soviet two-seater, swept winged, Night and Bad Weather Jet Interceptor Fighter

    two Klimov RD-45F centrifugal flow turbo-jet engines were to be fitted in tandem inside the front and rear fuselage, with the air intake at the extreme nose.

    For initial tests the aircraft was fitted with dual controls in the side by side cockpit. Flight trials were relatively successful, but revealed a tendency to drop the starboard wing at high speeds (known colloquially as val'ozhka).

    You fellas hadnt hit on the correct design bureau yet. :D
     
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    So is that it or do you want us to keep guessing?
     
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    I'd vote for a MIG prototype of some kind too.

    I want to know what kind of plane THIS thing is! Never see one other than this photo. I have no idea what it is.

    [​IMG]
     
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    No damned idea rondog but if I were to take a guess I would say that it either isn't really a plane or it was a concept.

    Anyways how about someone tries to guess the one below.
     

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    Hint part 2

    Thorium centimetre waveband NII-17 RADAR at NIIP - Naoochno-Issledovatel'skiy Institut Priborostroyeniya (Research Institute of Instrument Engineering), which was capable of detecting a B-29 Superfortress bomber at a range of 12 miles.



    General characteristics
    • Crew: Two
    • Length: 16.351 m (53 ft 7-3/4 in)
    • Wingspan: 12.96 m (42 ft 6-15/64 in)
    • Wing area: 40.02 m2 (430.32 ft2)
    • Empty weight: 8,810 kg (19,420 lb)
    • Gross weight: 12,630 kg (27,840 lb)
    • Powerplant: 2 × Klimov VK-1, 26.487 kN (5,950 lbf) thrust each
    Performance
    • Maximum speed: 1,070 km/h (664 mph)
    • Maximum speed: Mach 0.95
    • Range: 1,170 internal, 2,170 drop tanks km (726 Internal, 1,347 Drop Tanks miles)
    • Service ceiling: 15,550 m (51,017 ft)
    • Rate of climb: 27.78 m/s (5,470 ft/min)
    Armament
     
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  15. CopperniX

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    The powerplant is the answer in a way.


    It is either the

    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17

    or the


    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
     
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    If you look closely, you'll notice it has two props on the same engine, I'd bet they're counter-rotating. I'd also bet it's Russian or Eastern Bloc of some kind.
     
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    Hmm didn't notice that but the Russians do enjoy the double prop I know they have that cargo plane the " Bear" that can fly at it's ceiling and the sound can be picked up by the submarine radar that the U.S. has on the sea floor.
     
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    Which fighter had two engines fed by three intakes?
    I knew i should have said 'non-STOVL/VTOL jet. But the F-35B is correct.
    I'll give this one away then: it was the La-200B. It had two staggered jet engines, fed by three intakes fit to the sides and bottom of the radome. It was one of the early Soviet attempts to come to a long-ranged all-weather interceptor, roughly in the same category as the F-89. Only one prototype was built.
    [​IMG]

    Same plane?
     
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