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American Eagle .22LR (Junk or not?)

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Old Navy, Dec 8, 2004.

  1. Old Navy

    Old Navy Guest

    Has anyone used American Eagle .22 ammo? I bought a brick of 400 rounds on special for $5.89. I figured I would burn it up plinking with my Ruger 10/22. Yesterday at a trip to the range I used up about 120 rounds. I have come to realize that I am pretty luck with my standard 10/22. It is far more accurate than most right out of the box. The only mod I have done was to put a Yellow Jacket in it. Anyway, I was really shooting well with my Simmons 3-9X32 putting MOA groupings of 5 rounds at 30 yards and about every six or seventh round, the rifle report was not as sharp, the recoil was (subtly) not as noticeable, and the round would impact ¾-1 inch lower than the rest of the grouping. The first 5 times this happened I figured I shanked a shot which I do often enough, but I usually shank it to the left and not down. After a while the pattern emerged and I really began to notice the reduced noise and recoil that accompanied. Anyway… to make a long story longer, is this symptomatic of the poor quality of production in all their products, just .22LR, or just a bad box of shells.

    Also, can anyone recommend a reliable .22LR round for competition shooting (I have started my own Black Death Challenge w/my buddies) as well as a reliable hollow point round for hunting squirrel?
  2. dave375hh

    dave375hh G&G Newbie Forum Contributor

    I've used American Eagle 38gr hps for years with great results. They shoot within .1 of what I got with Eley 10X in two 10-22's that have been extensivly modified(the only part that's still Ruger is the acton body and mags). The 10X's shoot .4" @ 50 yds. the Am Eagle goes .5" These are 10 shot groups. A Rem. 581 shoots .75", and a stock Rem 597 goes 1.0" also at 50 yds. I've never experienced the light reports you mentioned, nor have I had any misfires like I've had with almost everything else. The worst stuff is any Remington .22's. They flat out SUCK! Lousy accuracy and bunches of misfires. Worst part is I've got several thousand of them because the wife collects those tins they put them up in. Try some of the hollow points before you give up on them. Even my High Standard Victor likes them.
  3. Big Dog

    Big Dog Retired IT Dinosaur Wrangler Forum Contributor

    I haven't used the American Eagle yet - sounds like my experience with the Remmy Golden Bullets. Rather inconsistent.

    Try the Winchester Dynapoints, in the white Bulk pack box. Lower velocity than Hi-vels and higher than the standard vel target ammo, but also good consistency and accuracy.
    Of two dozen .22 rifles I have, only one or two don't shoot it well. :)
  4. Bookman

    Bookman G&G Enthusiast

    dave375hh, I agree with you about the reliability of Remington .22 ammo. We have a kids' summer camp up here that has a .22 rifle range. They use about 30,000 rounds a season.

    At the end of each summer the camp would have a tin can full of Rem. Target .22 loads that misfired. Over a hundred rounds. I used to take them and try them in a S&W .22 revolver. They still wouldn't fire.

    A few years back the camp changed over to Winchester ammo. At the end of the summer there were four misfired rounds in the can. Four out of 30,000 rounds.

    I'll never buy Remington .22 ammo again. Centerfire ammo, yes; but not rimfire.
  5. incucrash

    incucrash G&G Newbie

    American Eagle is good, federal cartridges :)
    I like it, I use AE .223
  6. Old Navy

    Old Navy Guest

    Two Dozen!! :insane:

    Big Dog.... please allow me to leave my address with your wife in case of any unforseen circumstances requiring an estate sale!!
  7. Troy

    Troy G&G Newbie

    i like the federal 550 bulk pack, alright accuracy, consistant shooters, very few misfires. the ones i get are the hollow point copper washed ones. they are like $16 for the 550 brick.
  8. Big Dog

    Big Dog Retired IT Dinosaur Wrangler Forum Contributor

    Old Navy - 28 at last count! Yep, I collect them. Kinda like Lays potato chips - just can't stop at one.
    So, often each one seems to like a different brand or type of ammo. Luckily, I usually do well with about four different brands - they'll work in most guns well.
  9. stangman

    stangman G&G Newbie

    I've found that the AE's work great in most of my .22s but I do have a couple that just don't like them.
  10. Logansdad

    Logansdad Guest

    My Ruger Mark 2 Competition Target really seems to like those :target:
  11. Old Navy

    Old Navy Guest

    I'll keep an open mind with the AE's. I do dislike the Remmington. I just burned through 150 rounds of Rem and although there was no noticible change in report like I experienced with the AE's I had a few misfires where the rim had an apprecible strike mark from the firing pin. Also, I would have thought that I would have been shooting better with the practice just a couple days earlier, but with the Remmington ammo my groupings were wider.

    I have decided to record my progress and built a little spread sheet to help me take the subjectivity out of the process. This way once the scores are tallied, I can just look at the percentages and track trends. I also take the advertized data on the round from the box so I can tell over time what my little rifle likes best and how to get the best performance from the loads. It is also a good repository for tracking cold zero and hot zero and scope adjustments, although I will really need to shoot at a longer range than I have been to get some real data to crunch on zero.
  12. G Hollingsworth

    G Hollingsworth G&G Newbie

    Ok guys, I own a match 22 that is worked and I mean worked. and I will go into if interested,but, I never had good luck with bulk 22s. At 30 yds I punch one hole slightly larger than a 22 dia. Big dollar Rem. sucks but surprisingly Winchester hi speed does very well. This is off a sand bag front and rear w/ 6 power scope,leupold mount and scope. I hear all kinds of talk but when you find out what works for you, stick to it.
  13. lefty o

    lefty o G&G Enthusiast

    most bulk pack ammo is less than what i would consider good quality. some people say they have good luck with winchester dynapoints. every rifle likes something different. unfortunately for me the million dollar 22 likes eley match eps, it aint cheap shooting at $8 a box but it has turned in .320" ten shot groups at 50 yds off of a bipod so i dont !!!!! about the cost.
  14. Ranger

    Ranger G&G Newbie

    FWIW, my personal favorite are .22 Mini Mags.
  15. Logansdad

    Logansdad Guest

    do they all come in 40 round boxes ? :hmmm: :target:
  16. Big Dog

    Big Dog Retired IT Dinosaur Wrangler Forum Contributor

    My general favorite .22 loads are:
    1) CCI Minimag - best "High Velocity" fodder.
    2) CCI Greentag - good near-target loads, not really match-grade but very good in many rifles.
    3) CCI Standard - same as Greentag, just not quite as consistent. Much cheaper though!
    4) Federal Lightning - good load, slightly more expensive than bulk.
    5) Winchester Dynapoints - best bulk loads I've found.
    6) Aguila 60 grain SSS - specialty round with great "whompability factor"!
    7) Aguila Super Maximum - super hot little zingers! Makes your .22LR almost a .22 Magnum! But not for older more-fragile guns!!
    8) Aguila Super Colibri - powderless rounds, super quiet. Got "yard pests"? Get these loads, and get rid of the pests!
  17. colt45

    colt45 G&G Newbie

    my shooting with the stuff in centerfires has been a good one, but the 22 has been an utter disaster. i now use the wolf 22 for all my shooting other than my competion handgun. it still likes the remington standard handgun target loads better. but my sporter rifle and my 10/22 love the wolf ammo.
  18. Logansdad

    Logansdad Guest

    I like Triton Quik Shoks, Remington Yellow Jackets and Winchester Power Points in that order...I also like the American Eagle stuff too
  19. Troy

    Troy G&G Newbie

    You guys are spittin out names of ammo that i haven't even heard of before. I just dont have the selection to choose from like youse guys. My local gun dealer never even heard of the Colibri bullets.
  20. Logansdad

    Logansdad Guest

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