American SKS

Discussion in 'SKS' started by BattleRifleG3, Sep 13, 2002.

What do you think?

  1. I\'d love to see completely new SKSs come out with all sorts of options like different calibers, fin

    22 vote(s)
    46.8%
  2. I\'d like to see an exact pattern reproduction made of the originals.

    3 vote(s)
    6.4%
  3. I\'d like to see them made with both US and original parts, like most AKs, FALs, and G3s.

    2 vote(s)
    4.3%
  4. I wouldn\'t find them practical or worth the money.

    5 vote(s)
    10.6%
  5. I think it would cease to be everything an SKS is.

    3 vote(s)
    6.4%
  6. Don\'t you have better things to do with your life than to post silly polls like this? Get a girlfr

    12 vote(s)
    25.5%
  1. BattleRifleG3

    BattleRifleG3 G&G Evangelist

    There are American FALs, American G3s, even American AKs...
    What if an American company started putting out SKSs?
    Of course you'd expect to pay American prices for American quality.
     
  2. Rock

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    That would be great, as long as they used AK mags.
     

  3. Big Dog

    Big Dog Retired IT Dinosaur Wrangler Forum Contributor

    I'd like one in .223 Rem. with American quality and finish, with a nice Black Walnut stock, using AR15 magazines. Ah, to dream . . .
     
  4. NRAJOE

    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    I'd like one in .308 please! Pretty please? :assult:
     
  5. BattleRifleG3

    BattleRifleG3 G&G Evangelist

    I started drawing up designs for a rifle based on the SKS pattern chambered in everything up to 375 H&H, or at least 338 Win Mag, that would feed from BAR mags. Am I a nut or what?
     
  6. NRAJOE

    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    I'll buy one BRG3, where do I sign?
     
  7. BattleRifleG3

    BattleRifleG3 G&G Evangelist

    On the check that pays my engineering school tuition...

    I've actually considered someday buying some CNC tooling, getting an FFL, and actually makeing wild stuff like that. It'll be a while though. I have 2-3 more years left of Engineering school, and I'd want to have additional gunsmithing education if I went into building guns.

    Other wild ideas include recoil operated carbines in 45, 44, 40, 357, and such that would use Thompson, Uzi, M1, or AK mags.
     
  8. NRAJOE

    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    Cool, maybe your the next Ruger (God rest his soul), when you get rich and famous remember us and send us all test samples!!!
     
  9. BattleRifleG3

    BattleRifleG3 G&G Evangelist

    By the way, concerning option 3, it's not impossible to configure a US compliant SKS. You just have to "play the imported parts game" and follow the Tapco link from this site.
     
  10. Make it bigger with more power...LOTS more power. Add a 75 round drum..fill it with 460 Weatherbys or 600 Nitro Express. Might come in handy when that heard of angry elephants want to play in your yard.
     
  11. It wont happen, there are too many flooding the market that are cheap, in decent condition, and accurate. Why would I want a .308 caliber in an SkS? Thats what the M-1A and the Garand are for. Leave the SkS as it is, a foeiegn import from various countries that have poured into the States. Where else can I pop off a thousand rounds of lacquered Wolf bull-sh it ammo for $80 and not feel guilty. If I even thought of usenig that crap in my Garand or an M1-A I wouldnt be ablr to sleep right. I really dont think it marketable because you can get a Yugo for less than $200 dollars.
     
  12. Jesse

    Jesse Tradehawker LLC / www.tradehawker.com / Jn 17:17 Forum Contributor

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    Well I think the SKS design is greatly underappreciated. Simonov scaled down his 14.5mm anti-tank rifle to create the first SKS prototype that saw action on the Eastern Front late in WW2. I know of one manufacturer that has built a 50 cal. around the Simonov design (Pauza P50). So the unpatented Simonov design could take a 7.62X51 easily if the reciever was lengthened.

    The Chinese have long considered the SKS a supurb rifle, and have modified its original design into the type 68,72, and 84. The 68 and 72 have AK mag modification, selector switches and gas cutoffs (grenade launcher). The type 84 is a military issue SKS without a selector switch designed to take an AK mag. The type 84 has a button on the top of the cocking handle that, when depressed, holds the bolt at the rear during mag changes.

    I think the SKS design would FLOURISH under US manufacture if the right calibers were offered to meet demand and the production costs didn't outweigh the profit margin.


    Jesse
     
  13. Jesse

    Jesse Tradehawker LLC / www.tradehawker.com / Jn 17:17 Forum Contributor

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    http://www.teppojutsu.com/Pauza Guns.htm

    Here is the Pauza P-50 (top). If you notice, the barrel assembly and gas tube is a scaled up, modernized Simonov system.

    An American made Simonov carbine/rifle system could have a pistol grip and a detachable mag under the '94 Crime Bill's provisions.

    If the reciever was lengthened, a 7.62X51 and a .243 would be really nice. If the system were set up right, you could change calibers with a barrel change. Interesting!


    Word has it that Professional Ordinance will have their carbon fiber Simonov/Galil rifle on the market soon. 7.62X39 and takes all AK mags.

    Jesse
     
  14. BattleRifleG3

    BattleRifleG3 G&G Evangelist

    Never heard of the Pro Ord rifle. Any info links?
     
  15. Calvin

    Calvin G&G Evangelist

    Jesse, the SKS was also made in 7.62x54, though in small number, in the early days. If they would make one in that caliber again, they would make a fortune off of guys like us!
     
  16. Rock you can modify ak mags to work in a sks.
     
  17. Jesse

    Jesse Tradehawker LLC / www.tradehawker.com / Jn 17:17 Forum Contributor

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    Calvin,

    Yes, the 7.62X54 was tested early in the SKS's development. The Soviets apparently came up with the 7.62X39 by 1943... hence its M43 designation by the Soviet military. The 7.62X54 is a stout round, (100-150fps faster than the US 30/06 military ball,WW2 era). The round tore through the SVD rifles, wearing them down. You would think that this alone would be enough for the M43's development, but from what I have read, the Soviets came up with the idea from the Nazi's shortened 8mm round that I think was used in the MP 44.


    Jesse
     
  18. Rave

    Rave G&G Evangelist

    I would like it to be like the old one that took AK mags except that it would take regular AK drums also and it would be totally stainless steel except for the wood and it would come with a nice under-folding stock made of steel and wood.It would be in 7.62x39 or .223 as an option.It would have a protected peep rear sight.
    Or.......It would be all of the above with the fixed mag.,only in 20 round,still reloadable with stripper clips,that would be great too!
    :D :D :D :D
     
  19. johno

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    make it in several different calibers. i would love to see it in .308, with a nice muzzle brake/compensator on it. don't make it anything smaller than 7.62 soviet. dinky little .223 is just not my style. since the mag is curveed you could put rimmed rounds in the too. what about a .44 mag, or a .45 colt?
     
  20. BattleRifleG3

    BattleRifleG3 G&G Evangelist

    I've actually contemplated stuff like 357 or 44 Rem Mag for that same reason. What's interesting is that 357 has the same base size so it could conceivably even use the same bolt as the 7.62x39mm.