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Arminius

Discussion in 'General Handgun' started by Michael, Mar 23, 2002.

  1. Has anybody had any experience with Arminius 22 cal revolvers? I'm thinking about buying a used one.
     
  2. Jeremy

    Jeremy G&G Newbie

    i've got one a HW-7. The price was right so i figured, why not? it's actually quite accurate and well made. i guess it really depends on what the price tag is. i have to say i found the double action trigger pull a little stiff and usually use it single action as i tend to shoot better that way, any specific questions you might have, feel free to ask.
     

  3. Doglips

    Doglips G&G Newbie

    I got the 357

    I picked up an Arminius 357 mag with 7" barrel a wile back...ITs a german gun inported by FIE? around the 1970s or so I was told on a nother board. They were considered mid to cheep priced firearms..Mine shoots great and I have no complaints...I paid $150 for it at a gun store.. Only problem I can think of is parts and things like grips...no one seems to make anything to fit them.
    But hay if the price is right..go for it.
    I pick up some off the wall stuff if its cheep :) some is great some not so great...just sell the not so great stuff...but I see it this way...If its $100 or less then heck I blow that takeing the kids to Wal-mart and McDonalds...so I give it a shot...
     
  4. Klaus

    Klaus G&G Newbie

    I got an old one in .38 special. Mine was sold under the "Warrior" brand name. It is heavy, and clunky, and ugly, but works well. I am trying to find a suitable replacement for the spring, as it is very stiff.
     
  5. Well I bought the revolver. It's the HW7T model. I picked it up for about $200 Canadian. I tried it out and was not terribly disappointed at all. The trigger is a little on the stiff side. Over all it appears to be well made. The one I got is still fairly new. It does not have a lot of wear on it. The eight shots make for a fun shoot. I was also pleased with the accuracy. I was able to average 3" - 3 1/2" eight shot groups at 25 yds. I was happy with that for a cheap gun.
    I was a little scepticle at first about this gun just from what I heard about it on other forums but thought I'd just give it a shot anyways. Now I'm happy I did. It should be a good plinker for a while.
     
  6. Logansdad

    Logansdad Guest

    somebody was asking about these :D
     
  7. BattleRifleG3

    BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator

    I probably know more about the theologian than the revolver.
     
  8. Logansdad

    Logansdad Guest

    Who was Arminius?
    by Robert Godfrey

    (President & Church History Professor of Westminster Theological Seminary)

    James Arminius (Jacob Harmenszoon) is undoubtedly the most famous theologian ever produced by the Dutch Reformed Church. His fame is a great irony since the Dutch Reformed Church historically was a bastion of strict Calvinism and Arminius has given his name to a movement very much in opposition to historic Calvinism. Who was this Arminius? What did he teach? Are the differences between Calvinism and Arminianism important today?

    Who Was Arminius? Arminius was born in 1559 in Oudewater - a small city in the province of Holland. Holland was one of seventeen prosperous provinces then known as the Netherlands or the Low Countries, which today are divided into the Netherlands, Belgium and part of northern France. In 1559 His Most Catholic Majesty Philip II was the king of Spain and Sovereign of the Netherlands.

    Despite Philip's ardent Roman Catholicism and persecuting zeal, Reformation movements had been strong in the Low Countries for decades. In the late 1540s Calvinism emergd as an attractive, popular religion in the Netherlands, especially in the southern provinces. In 1559 Guido de Bres wrote the first edition of the Belgic Confession, which clearly summarized the Calvivistic faith and set it off from Roman Catholicism and Anabaptism. The Belgic Confession became one of the basic doctrinal standards of Dutch Calvinism.

    The decade of the 1560s saw dramatic developments in the Netherlands. The Belgic Confession was published. A storm of iconoclasm broke out, destroying many images in Roman Catholic churches throughout the provinces. Guido de Bres was martyred for the faith. Philip II increasingly alienated the nobility and the people with his fiscal and religious policies. Revolts broke out against royal authority.

    By the early 1570s civil war had begun in earnest against Spain. History knows this revolt as the Eighty Years War, which was not settled until 1648. Growing up in the midst of civil war in state and church, Arminius knew the bitterness of war. In 1575 his mother and other members of his family died at the hands of Spanish troops in a massacre at Oudewater.

    In October of 1575 Arminius entered the newly founded University of Leiden. He was the 12th student to enroll in the school that honored the heroic resistance of Leiden to Spanish siege in 1574. He was a talented student and like many students of his day continued his education at other schools. From 1581 to 1586 he studied in Geneva and Basle.

    While in Geneva Arminius seemed to have some trouble with Theodore Beza, Calvin's staunch successor. The evidence suggests not theological, but philosophical, differences. Indeed there is very little evidence as to exactly what Arminius' theology was in his student years. What is clear is that when Arminius was ordered to return to the Netherlands in 1586 to take up pastoral responsibilities in Amsterdam, he was given a very good letter of recommendation from Beza to the Dutch Reformed Church.

    Before returning to Amsterdam, Arminius took a trip into Italy to see the sights. This trip was later used by some Calvinists to accuse Arminius of having Roman Catholic sympathies. But such charges were clearly untrue and unfair.

    Once back in Amsterdam he became one of several pastors there and in 1590 he married Lijsbet Reael, a daughter of one of Holland's most influential men. Arminius became allied to a regent family and his convictions on the relation of church and state were the same as that of most regents. Indeed, he was appointed in 1591 to a commission to draw up a church order in which the church was given a position clearly subordinate to and dependent on the state. This position (usually called Erastianism) was not held by most clergy in the Dutch Reformed Church. Most followed Calvin's conviction that the church must have a measure of independdence from the state, especially in matters of church discipline.
     
  9. Oxford

    Oxford Retired Moderator

    Not enough time? There's still only 168 hours in a week, any way you priotorize it.:nod: :D
     
  10. Hi, I have a Arminius HW7T it is also the same as a HW5T I need a scope mount for this pistol? Or I could use a rear sight elevation screw,rear sight blade screw,and a rear sight blade? If any body has any of these parts or a place where I can find them please let Me know? Thank You!!
     
  11. James Plunk

    James Plunk G&G Newbie

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    i bought a Arminius 22 8 shot revolver mag 6 inch barrel and barrel is kinda loose at the cylinder is there anyway of tighting it up and how good a gun is it never heard of a Arminius before i got this one?

    Hi i bought a Arminius 22 mag revolver HW7 and has a 6 inch barrel , the barrel is a little loose where it into the gun at the cylinder can it be tightened and how good a gun is a arminius never heard of one till i bought this one??
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2007
  12. elias010

    elias010 G&G Newbie

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    I have an Arminius HW5T in .32 S&W and the hammer is not reaching the firing pin. Has anyone experienced this problem before? Or thoes anyone have a schematic on an HW5 or HW7?
     
  13. arminius64w

    arminius64w G&G Newbie

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    Interesting, But the armory was not named after A theologian it was named after a warrior.
    This is the man A German Firearm Company would have been named after.

    Arminius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Arminius (also Hermann, Armin, 18 BC/17 BC - 21 AD) was a chieftain of the Cherusci who defeated a Roman army in the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. His tribal coalition against the Empire successfully blocked the efforts Iulius Caesarius Claudianus Germanicus, nephew of Emperor Tiberius, to reconquer the Germanic territories east of the Rhine, although there is debate among historians about the outcome of several inconclusive battles (Tacitus, Annals 2.22, Suetonius, Caligula 1.4). And although Arminius was ultimately unsuccessful in forging unity among the Germanic tribes, his upset victory had a far-reaching effect on the subsequent history of both the ancient Germans, of the Roman Empire, and ultimately, of Europe.
     
  14. Steel Bane8

    Steel Bane8 G&G Newbie

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    Im having the same problem, does aneone know how to fix it.
     
  15. Steel Bane8 WELCOME !!! To GUN and GAME feller...A.H
     
  16. wayne 1

    wayne 1 G&G Newbie

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    need front sights for arminius hw7

    im looking for front sights for a hw7 revolver. If anyone can help me get one that would be great
     
  17. my dad has one, almost identical to the 9 shot NEF .22 cal revolvers

    THEY ARE WONDERFUL DO BUY!
     
  18. jackar

    jackar G&G Newbie

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    Several years ago I was transferred to Kansas City. One of the agents I worked with took a job moonlighting as a guard at a bank there. Not much danger involved since the bank was closed after dark.. He wanted an inexpensive revolver and the pawn shop sold him an Arminius.38 Sp for $75 and threw in a holster and Sam Browne belt. He took the gun apart and couldn't get it back together so just shoved the grip and frame into the holster, fastened the flap down and showed up that night for work. We cracked up discussing what would have happened if he had to draw that gun. He came down with leukemia and a couple days before he died he said he had told his kids he wanted me to have that Arminius. But I never got it.
     
  19. weatherb

    weatherb G&G Newbie

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    arminius hw5t revolver

    REVOLVER WAS MADE IN WEST GERMANY BY H.WEINRAUSH,MELLREICHSTADT WEST GERMANY.IMPORTED BY FIE AS ''ARMINIUS''. HAS WINGED MERCURY ON FRAME.HAVE A 22 LR AND NEED PARTS.GUN GOOD CONDITION EXCEPT DISASSEMBLED COMPLETELY...AND I MEAN COMPLETELY.SOME PARTS MISSING..SMALL PARTS. NEED SCHEMATIC AND SOURCE FOR PARTS OR PURCHASE PARTS GUN.ANY HELP.RSVP.
     
  20. free4ever

    free4ever G&G Newbie

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    Arminius revolvers, any good?

    Check this link for more info on the Arminius guns. German Revolvers A-E
    From what I have read, some of these revolvers are good shooting, well-made inexpensive handguns, and others were cheap AND cheaply made.
    I have seen several companies using the name Arminius. I don't know anything about the reference to the Spanish concern.
    I have read that an American firm began manufacturing revolvers under the Arminius name after the 1968 Gun Control Act (a rip off of the 1938 Nazi Weapons Law ironically) and that these versions were of the "Saturday Night Special" variety. From everything else I have read, the German made variants are well made and accurate. I saw a couple references to a loose screw causing the loading gate to get loose, the model was not given. But the writers of these reports said everything was fine after tightening the screws (and presumably using Lok-Tite).
    ARMINIUS Tradename of Friederich Pickert, pre-WW-II in ZellaMehlis, Germany.
    ARMINIUS Tradename of Gregorio Bolumburu /Spain (?)
    ARMINIUS Postwar brandname used by Herman Weirauch Sportwaffenfabrik, West Germany
    The link to the website of the present day revolver company making these guns is below:
    Neue Seite 1
    I believe this is the maker of the Windicator inportded by EAA. Does anyone know for sure? They sure do look like them. The HW7 and HW9 have recieved some high praise on some forums as being heavy 22 revolvers of great value.
    I am also interested in getting one of these. If anyone else can shed any light on the subject please do.