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Glock Combat Accuracy vs Target Shooting

Discussion in 'General Handgun' started by SargeC4, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. big shrek

    big shrek G&G Evangelist

    I'll risk being flamed for this...

    John Wick it during practice.
    Seriously, shoot & move...move a LOT.
    Just standing there at the range popping targets is nice,
    but NOTHING about a street scene is anywhere near that clean-cut.
    You'll be lucky if you even GET to aim. Chances are just as good that
    you'll be point-shooting (hope you practiced that!) at funny angles.
    Practice shooting while walking backwards & side-to-side.
    Hope you've got some Martial Arts in your background, maybe at
    least be able to kick an opponent's knees or other locations to push
    them back...a stiff-arm ain't out of the realm of possibilities either...
    and it likely won't be just ONE opponent...

    Wouldn't even be a bad idea to wear a motorcycle helmet & have a buddy
    bash you with a 2x4 to see how you react to a hit from behind...see if
    you even retain the squirt gun or can even squirt him with it after the hit.
    Do you even know how you'll react to being hit somewhat randomly??
    Have you ever taken a hard blow??

    Chances of getting into a Weaver Stance or a 3/4 stance are
    actually somewhere around effing slim to none. The only benefit of
    gunfighter stances is that the bullet tends to pass thru front to back
    instead of the much more deadly side to side heart/lung shot.
    One lung hit is survive-able, getting two hit cross-body means trouble.
    Cop train Weaver & 3/4 because they're ALREADY standing in position to
    do so, and tend to have the escalation somewhat planned. They knew
    there was "trouble" when they got to a scene, regular folks aren't expecting it.

    Open Mind, prepare for the worst...hope for the best.
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2017
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  2. FortyXDM

    FortyXDM G&G Evangelist Staff Member

    No flaming here buddy...... Most of us would do well to just find the "front" sight. Practice for quick shot when you can by just putting the front sight on the target and squeeze one off. No need (time) to align sights, cut the dot in half...etc...Just cover target with front sight and shoot. Surprising how often you find the target this way.
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  3. TACAV

    TACAV G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor


    I don't know of any cops that have been trained in Weaver stance for probably at least 20 years if not longer.

    Everyone learns to shoot isosceles as the default stance and then some more might adopt a more aggressive universal fighting stance (which is still very much squared off to the threat putting as much armor between you and bad guy and minimizing exposure to your side) that translates across both unarmed and armed fighting afterwards.

    but other than that yes... moving and shooting is a good thing. :cool:

    Force on force training with sims guns is a great training type too if you can do it.
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  4. neophyte

    neophyte Wonderment :) Forum Contributor

    We shoot at our friend farm. Cobby walking at best;
    setting up targets around and in the wood-line
    Using signs, golfballs and junk;
    spaced to cause many applications in movement
    3-5-7yds aren't really held firm as our distant measure
    These are fun-complicated timed events
    Amazing how much is learned

    Moving left 30yds; moving right the same 30yds will elevate heart rate, concentration:)
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  5. TheWall

    TheWall Firearm Affectionado Forum Contributor

    If you can get really close groupings anywhere on a target, you'll be better in combat situations. Duh! Practice makes perfect. You can practice real life situations but you can't practice in real life situations. I thought this video was appropriate for this guys demonstration.
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  6. FortyXDM

    FortyXDM G&G Evangelist Staff Member

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  7. MoDoc

    MoDoc G&G Evangelist

    Neophyte is one of my favorite members, and a sensible dude.
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  8. john_r

    john_r G&G Evangelist

    Jax, Fla
    First rule, don't be there.

    Target shooting = precisely trying to put all bullets into one hole, at the expense of everything else.

    Combat accuracy = multiple bullets in different organs, inches apart, makes it more likely to stop the threat than several bullets in the same hole.
  9. Wicked109

    Wicked109 G&G Evangelist

    Or bullets in multiple targets to neutralize enemy combatants. Last man standing wins :)
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  10. MoDoc

    MoDoc G&G Evangelist

    Some brothers, nephews, and I were together for our annual Thanksgiving gunplay [for years it was clay shooting; before that quail hunting] at the farm a few months ago. We were doing some timed courses with handguns like Neophyte was describing, and capped it all off with the destruction of a toilet placed in a small gully. The seat/bowl was saved for last, and I just happened to have brought my Savage/Stevens 350 12 gauge and a number of slugs. One shot at 30 yards obliterated it, and we took turns breaking down the larger fragments with the rest of my slugs. Good times.