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On the way home today, I stopped by the local pawn shop. They had a couple of dreadfully bubba'ed M91s on the shelf. A 1926 Tula and a 1928 Izhevsk. The stocks are butchered, and the finish isn't great. The bore of the '28 is pretty dirty, but the '26 looked good. They're both C.A.I. imports, and are numbers matching. Wondering if they're worth picking up and searching for the proper stocks to bring them back to correct condition. Asking prices are $289 for the '26 and $269 for the '28. I only made an offer on the '26, but the shop clerk said the lowest he'd go was $249 out the door. Is it worth it?


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Interesting. Never would have thought that the stocks would be hard to find, at least the original wood ones. Can find alternative stocks, but won't do if you are putting back to original.
For what it would cost for the action and then to purchase a wood stock, might as well buy a rifle that is in the correct military configuration.
 

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Both the Tula has very interesting markings on receiver and the Izzy does not look like common marking either. Thing is with stocks butchered I would not pay that much. I think $250 would be tops for one in good condition with non butchered stocks. I have a whole complete crate of them they were not over $100 each when I bought them. Hard to believe. I actually have always bought spare parts for many of my guns when they were cheaper and readily available. I bought a couple spare stocks, barrels, complete bolts and other parts years ago while in surplus. Glad I did.
 

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If they are honest Model 1891s, you're going to have to make your own stock. It's almost impossible to find an original Model 1891 stock. Even the Finnish finger-spliced stocks are difficult to find.

If they are 91/30s, the going rate for an issue stock is in the vicinity of $150, IF you can find one. Most of what is out there is Boyds aftermarket stocks which cost that much or more, or ATI synthetic stocks between $60 AND $100. That's fine if you are turning a bubba'd Mosin with a cut barrel into a hunting rifle, but you can't get an uncut Model 1891 into one of those and have it look like anything.
 
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That Tula does look interesting. Now, I'll have to dig back into the back of my safe to get one of my hexes out and see what it says on the receiver. Shop around, you might find somebody, who doesn't know that the stocks have gone sky high. It wasn't too long ago that Century was selling stocks with all of the hardware for $15. I can't help you with the price. I haven't bought one for many years. I did sell a 91/30 with a round receiver about a year ago for $250. It was very insignificant, but in very nice condition and original with all of the trinkets that go with them.
 

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Personally, I’d walk away. But I don’t need any more Mosin Nagants, and piecing one back together is simply not worth it unless they are near free.
With all the panic buying and the Russian import ban, the price on those might not be as far out of line as I think. But, I simply don’t know.
 

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That Tula does look interesting. Now, I'll have to dig back into the back of my safe to get one of my hexes out and see what it says on the receiver. Shop around, you might find somebody, who doesn't know that the stocks have gone sky high. It wasn't too long ago that Century was selling stocks with all of the hardware for $15. I can't help you with the price. I haven't bought one for many years. I did sell a 91/30 with a round receiver about a year ago for $250. It was very insignificant, but in very nice condition and original with all of the trinkets that go with them.
I bought three of the accessory kits in bags a few years back. A gun shop was closing and they must have not given the accessories with rifles they sold. The accessories are the bayonet, sling and collars, oil bottle and leather ammo holders for the belt. Bayonets are serial numbered of course. I gave like $15 a bag and got three.
 

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Not long ago, those two butchered Mosins would be $150 rifles all day long. If in proper full issue stocks, then maybe $250. Beats me why prices have skyrocketed so much.
 
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Not long ago, those two butchered Mosins would be $150 rifles all day long. If in proper full issue stocks, then maybe $250. Beats me why prices have skyrocketed so much.
They ain't making 75 year old rifles anymore, imports have dried up. I can remember 1903's in a barrel for $75 years ago, supply and demand. When the demand is up and supply is down, prices go up.
 

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Not long ago, those two butchered Mosins would be $150 rifles all day long. If in proper full issue stocks, then maybe $250. Beats me why prices have skyrocketed so much.
I think most of the reason these rifles got pricey is importation. I believe Obama put ban on Russian imports of weapons and ammo when he was in office. The ones in the country eventually dried up. Look how a tin of Ammo for them was $70 . I bought a few crates of it with two spam cans each. Same reason why AK47's from Russia came to a halt. I am not sure if the ban was lifted by Trump. I am sure there are hundreds of thousands of these Mosin Nagant's rifles still there but illegal to import them. There are some importers that have over seas contacts and get them sent to another country and then here where it is legal.
 

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I think most of the reason these rifles got pricey is importation. I believe Obama put ban on Russian imports of weapons and ammo when he was in office. The ones in the country eventually dried up. Look how a tin of Ammo for them was $70 . I bought a few crates of it with two spam cans each. Same reason why AK47's from Russia came to a halt. I am not sure if the ban was lifted by Trump. I am sure there are hundreds of thousands of these Mosin Nagant's rifles still there but illegal to import them. There are some importers that have over seas contacts and get them sent to another country and then here where it is legal.
Exactly right. Obozo put a ban on the importation of Russian-made firearms. He claimed it was an embargo because you could still import Russian-made guns if they had been stored outside of Russia for 20 years -- but you can see the horse droppings as clearly as I can in that statement. The only places with stocks of Soviet-made Mosins that might meet those qualifications are Finland, which has mostly surplused all the Mosins it is willing to; Romania, which refurbished a lot of Mosins and remanufactured anywhere from half a million to 1.5 million 91/30s into Model 91/59s, most of which were stored in Russia; Ukraine, which is not about to export rifles they need to fight of Putin's Russian "militias" trying to take over the country; North Korea, which got a lot of Mosin carbines from the ChiComs back in the Korean War, and being Communists they never throw weapons away; the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, which got Mosins from China and the Soviet Union in the early days of what they call "the American War" to distinguish it from the war against the French; and whatever can be scrounged from the Khyber Pass region or has been captured from the Taliban.

Same thing with the AKs. The only people it really affects are the collectors. I personally would love to lay my hands on a World War II vintage TT-33 Tokarev, ideally an unaltered one, but I can live without it. I want an SVT-40 more. However, all of those are under the Bobo Ban.

Donnie Boy promised that he would get the Bobo Ban lifted, but he hasn't done it yet. Nor do I expect him to until after the election, if then, win or lose. If he does lift it, grab whatever you are after as fast as it gets here, because sure as hell Clueless Joe and the Jack-Offs will negate Trump's negation of Obama's executive order quickly.
 

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Exactly right. Obozo put a ban on the importation of Russian-made firearms. He claimed it was an embargo because you could still import Russian-made guns if they had been stored outside of Russia for 20 years -- but you can see the horse droppings as clearly as I can in that statement. The only places with stocks of Soviet-made Mosins that might meet those qualifications are Finland, which has mostly surplused all the Mosins it is willing to; Romania, which refurbished a lot of Mosins and remanufactured anywhere from half a million to 1.5 million 91/30s into Model 91/59s, most of which were stored in Russia; Ukraine, which is not about to export rifles they need to fight of Putin's Russian "militias" trying to take over the country; North Korea, which got a lot of Mosin carbines from the ChiComs back in the Korean War, and being Communists they never throw weapons away; the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, which got Mosins from China and the Soviet Union in the early days of what they call "the American War" to distinguish it from the war against the French; and whatever can be scrounged from the Khyber Pass region or has been captured from the Taliban.

Same thing with the AKs. The only people it really affects are the collectors. I personally would love to lay my hands on a World War II vintage TT-33 Tokarev, ideally an unaltered one, but I can live without it. I want an SVT-40 more. However, all of those are under the Bobo Ban.

Donnie Boy promised that he would get the Bobo Ban lifted, but he hasn't done it yet. Nor do I expect him to until after the election, if then, win or lose. If he does lift it, grab whatever you are after as fast as it gets here, because sure as hell Clueless Joe and the Jack-Offs will negate Trump's negation of Obama's executive order quickly.
Cyrano I have two of the Romanian Tokarevs but have been altered with the trash safety. Its hard to find an unaltered one and if so they are costly. I would remove mine but then I would have the holes to contend with in the frame. Yes if they ever lift the ban and import more Mosin,s then its time to build the herd up and get more.
 
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