Dark New Chapter

Discussion in 'Political/Religious Topics' started by Kellen, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:56 AM.

  1. Kellen

    Kellen G&G Evangelist

    I fear we have turned a page of history and are beginning a dark new chapter for the country. I say “fear” because my confidence in the future is regrettably low.

    This feeling does not arise only from the lawlessness we’re enduring on city streets and the ongoing riots. It does not result just from the absence of humanity when we cower in place and mask our faces from each other. Not just from the socialist extremism of the new Democrat party and their unscrupulous lust for power. All these negative forces will play out, their energy will be spent, they will subside.

    No, it’s deeper. My fear is that we have adopted a permanent change in the culture of us, the American people. A change in the core of what makes Americans exceptional. We are losing our independence not as a country, but as individuals.

    What passes for “individualism” these days is a sham. Individualism does not consist of choices between pleasures, or avoidance of anything that disturbs the even flow of life, or indulging and exhibiting our narrowest interests on the internet, or impulsive violence and mob destruction.

    Individualism stresses the importance of responsibility, self-reliance, free thinking, being a productive and caring member of a community. Individualism means the dominance of independent reason and conscience. When I think of American exceptionalism and how our culture has inspired the rest of the world the past 200 years, I think of our culture of individualism as the truest reflection of our independence.

    It is the encroaching loss of independent individualism in American culture that I find disturbing. The mass of Americans appear to have lost independence in their thoughts, behavior, and social awareness.

    The adverse of individual independence is collective slavery. That’s the slope I fear we are sliding down, the slope toward slavery to institutions, be they governmental, political, educational, or corporate, and the one-dimensional conformity they demand.
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  2. Jim Bridger

    Jim Bridger G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    Freedom begins or ends at the Ballot Box. The majority of voters in some parts of our Nation chose Socialism over Capitalism.
    Much of the East and West costal regions have adopted this experiment. The West coast Socialism is failing. The Voters who enlisted Socialism are escaping to the more successful Capitalist states. They are transporting their Socialist schemes with them.:mad:
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  3. Ten Man

    Ten Man G&G Evangelist

    The PERVERSION of Freedom begins or ends at the Ballot Box.

    Liberty begins or ends at the muzzle of a gun.

    The Second Amendment is the affirmation of the right of people to possess that Tool of Liberty.
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  4. Jim Bridger

    Jim Bridger G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    The 2nd Amendment is contained by the First Amendment. If you have noticed many viral acts are justified by speech. When anyone even a police officer uses a firearm they are held responsible and too often adjudicated. The act of Dueling to preserve Honor ended with the Civil War 1865. Southern Planters survived on an illiquid economy of markets and slaves. Holding ones honor was necessary to preserve needed credit. The 2nd Amendment has been challenged in numerous ways. Our rights to own use and carry and keep arms has been a challenge since Dec. 17th 1791.
  5. neophyte

    neophyte Wonderment :) Forum Contributor

    Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Second Amendment

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
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  6. neophyte

    neophyte Wonderment :) Forum Contributor

    Jim Bridger: Sir; I question your logic; or argument

    each amendment is stand alone
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  7. Jim Bridger

    Jim Bridger G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    As the Right to practice Religion is now being subdued? You may have an abortion, but your right to attend church is now controlled. The examples are endless.
    If you study Constitutional Law and the Federalist papers it will add to your quantifying of jurisdictions. Thanks for your commentary.:)
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  8. blue fox

    blue fox G&G Evangelist

    Individualism is not so slowly being bred out of our younger generations. There is constant bombardment about "fairness" among other things. Everybody has to be the same so that nobody feels bad. Exceptional achievements are down played or ridiculed because it makes others "feel" bad. everybody is given a trophy. Schools are doing away with Honor student rankings and Valedictorian selections. Colleges are doing away with ACTs and SATs because somebody might be smarter than somebody else and have an "unfair" advantage. Youngsters are forced to either not play certain games (tag for example) or allowed to pick members of a team. Dissenting opinions are attacked and ridiculed because they hurt somebody's feelings or don't fit an agenda.
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  9. Ten Man

    Ten Man G&G Evangelist

    Every bit of it is COMMUNIST BS!
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  10. blaster

    blaster G&G Evangelist

    welcome to the "new Dark Ages". complete with Political Correctness and racial Inquisitions. Torquemada would be right at home.
  11. Jaison

    Jaison G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    ‘Individualism stresses the importance of responsibility, self-reliance, free thinking, being a productive and caring member of a community. Individualism means the dominance of independent reason and conscience‘.

    - Kellen, 9/16/2020

    Couldn’t agree more, sir.

    Have we entered an era where Reason is optional? Where conscious, deliberate search for Truth is optional? Where feelings trump reality? Where reality is optional?

    Everyday we’re bombarded with the hive mentality of pseudo-Conservatism and the NeoCons which differs from the Leftist dogma in name only.

    Atlas Shrugged, 1984, Animal Farm, all discussed ad nauseum.

    Even C.S. Lewis advocates personal responsibility, accountability, and individualism in his book, Mere Christianity.

    I’ll stop here, lest my big mouth gets me banned.
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  12. jwrauch

    jwrauch G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    This discussion is the logical result of the age old battle between good vs evil. The current situation was predicted in the Bible 2000 years ago and is a spiritual battle.
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  13. Ranger4

    Ranger4 G&G Evangelist

    Well said. The very definition of fairness is being changed. Example, women in "X" profession make less money that men and that is automatically evil or bad and demands change. But why is that? In 1974 the massive ATT company was sued for institutional bias against women and signed a consent decree to to massive changes to accelerate women in promotions and all that. When they looked at the real issues they found that linemen and repairmen and people who worked on pole lines late at night and weekends, got lots of overtime work and made much more money. When they opened those jobs up to more females they found that most females did not want to go out after dark and work in remote or dangerous areas climbing poles during ice storms, after tornadoes and such, so they made much less money. The guys took the risk and females often with children rejected those jobs. If you call an ATT repair person to your home now, you will still have a guy show up, women still 46 years later do not want those jobs. We still have people claiming that women are discriminated in pay--the problem is there are valid reason why that happens.

    Same way with racial issues. The national government now demands some equal ratio of numbers by race. So, corporate America is forced to find people of a different color to fill a certain number of executive positions. What that means is they find the "best" minority they can to fill some of those jobs. The result is they do not find the "best" person. The result is we operate at a lower lever that we could.

    They call it fairness. Maybe so, unless you are the white person or other person who was passed over so they could fill that quota. Life is not fair.
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  14. PaleHawkDown

    PaleHawkDown G&G Evangelist

    I think anti-bullying campaigns might be the stupidest thing to ever exist. The next dumbest thing is "zero tolerance" in school.

    People need to learn to deal with insults, and everyone deserves at least one good beatdown, and one victory in a fight.
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