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the .223 carbine, now sports a folding stock to allow firing the carbine while the stocks folded!!!

just the latest development since the Klinton ban died.
 

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Yep, and they have better sights now too. Real metal instead of the plastic crap. :)
 

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Actually that folder was designed for when the ban was in effect. Notice how it still has no pistol grip. That would have been the only way to do a post-ban pre-expiration folder.
 

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yeah! it was in the february issue of guns magazine and did you know that it can also take 20 round and 30 round AR mags
 

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Yup, the first generation Kel Tec was designed to do the same. Gives the Mini-14 a run for its money.
 

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Regarding the Kel-Tec SU-16 - there are early reports beginning to come in that the barrel tends to shift when it gets hot. Thus, POA shifts too - not good. I'll be watching these rifles over time.
 

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BattleRifleG3 said:
Actually that folder was designed for when the ban was in effect. Notice how it still has no pistol grip. That would have been the only way to do a post-ban pre-expiration folder.
you must be looking at the old model BRG3, the new version has a different pistolgrip and stock.
 

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That actually is what I saw before, I don't think that would count as a p-grip under the old dead ban. The rifle would be a good buy for folks living in states that adopted the AWB themselves.
 

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You could get the standard version as one of two Cali-legal semi-autos in 223.
it also has the Kali-banned detachable magazine too. a double whammy!!!
 

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I'm seriously thinking of trading in a couple mosins & such, put some more cash down and get a su-16 in all black. The dealer had one in green $500 out the door, but I want a black one. It feels good although it's plasticky... :hmmm:
 

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Eh, for your 10rd limit, I'd keep the Mosins. If you're gonna have a low number of rounds, might as well make them good.

I think a stripper clip fed 223 would be nice for Californians. Each tends to load faster than a rock-loading detachable mag. Advantage to the detachables is capacity, at least the ones you lock and rock in.
 

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detach mags arent banned if they're under 10 rounds :rolleyes:
then why is that 10 rd fixed magazine AR-15 type the only one allowed???
 

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then why is that 10 rd fixed magazine AR-15 type the only one allowed???
hmm...dunno about that but know for sure that 10-round AR-15 detachable mags are okay (to shove in the keltec).
 

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Cause the AR-15 has a pistol grip and can't go without one. A Mini doesn't require a p-grip by design. Got a detachable mag, can't have a p-grip. Got a p-grip, can't have a d-mag.
 

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Cause the AR-15 has a pistol grip and can't go without one. A Mini doesn't require a p-grip by design. Got a detachable mag, can't have a p-grip. Got a p-grip, can't have a d-mag.
oh I thought he meant just the AR-15 magazine...yup, AR15s with detach mag of any capacity are strictly NO NO
 
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