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Emergency/First Aid Kit

Discussion in 'Survival Gear' started by Brandhard, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. The only thing I think everybody has missed out on is vet wrap. It's amazing stuff for to help hold pressure on just about anything. :)
     
  2. Brandhard

    Brandhard G&G Evangelist

    I don't have that, but I do have a few Ace bandages. Also the Israeli bandages do the same job, but are extremely quick to place.
     
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  3. Big Dog

    Big Dog Retired IT Dinosaur Wrangler Forum Contributor

    I have both of those. Will check out the vet wrap though.
     
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  4. Ten Man

    Ten Man G&G Evangelist

    Vet wrap is like "velcro" for bandages! It is great stuff, especially if you have an area of skin that applying an adhesive to is not a good idea.

    It is excellent for folks with fragile skin that would tear or ulcerate under an adhesive bandage border.

    The only drawback to "vet wrap" is the ability to wrap it all the way around the affected body part where you want to apply the bandage. The face or butt would be good examples of it's limitation.
     
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  5. It's also great as a support/compression wrap for ankles, knees, wrists, elbows and hands. In a pinch you can use a piece of it to tie your hair out of your eyes. Been there...done that more than once...lol
     
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  6. Big Dog

    Big Dog Retired IT Dinosaur Wrangler Forum Contributor

    Sounds like the tan self-sticky bandage wrap you use to replace the white tape. Sticks only to itself. Available at grocery stores. I like it better than the white tape.
     
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  7. Cyrano

    Cyrano Resident Curmudgeon Forum Contributor

    You need to get some toilet paper in there. It works best if you unroll it from the roll and fold it flat, then store it in a zipper type ziploc bag.
     
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  8. That's the stuff!

    It's got a human name now, but I've always known it as vet wrap since it started out being used by vets for horses.
     
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  9. Big Dog

    Big Dog Retired IT Dinosaur Wrangler Forum Contributor

    Aha! Then I DO have it! ;)
    I do keep the white stuff too, as there are some places you just can't wrap around. Nuff said.
     
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  10. Horse wrap also comes In camouflage patterns, which makes It good for camoing guns that you don't want to paint (or use the white wrap for winter camo)

    The horse wrap works better than the camo gun wrap tape, that stuff will leave residue all over the gun if it gets too hot.
     
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  11. Btw, the human equivalent is called Coban wrap
     
  12. Thanks, Thrillbilly. I'll never remember it as Coban. It was vet wrap 35 years ago, it'll be vet wrap when I go toes up. Besides...it's cheaper to buy as vet wrap than Coban ;)
     
  13. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ G&G Evangelist

    I think attending a good wilderness first aid course would be a good start.
    Any time your more than a couple hours away from medical facility, itd be good insight into what you stick in your packs.

    Animal bites, severe road rash, burns from fuels, dislocations, chain saw & brush cutter accidents, what to do in the event of a broken arm?
    A fellow I know was working on the roof of a meat drying rack, just 6 feet off the ground, he fell breaking his left forarm the bones came through the skin and stabbed into the dirt, since He didnt like his bones sticking out the skin, He set his own arm straighter retracting those broken dirty bones back inside, he had a total of 9 months of troubles with that infected broken arm, needing a couple different operations to get the infected tissue removed, before the arm could mend.

    Washing wounds requires clean water, remember westerns were they douse wounds with Whiskey?
    What does whiskey do to raw torn flesh?
    The same for betadine, imagine clean sterile gauze, not a just a couple 3" squares, Im talking about whole packets of sterile gauze sponges, Bacitracin Zinc Ointment, dont get some wussy little tube for a scuffed elbow, get a good size tub of the stuff, however much You Think You need, multiply that x4 then add another 30%, then you might be in the ball park.

    http://m.enasco.com/t/Farm-Ranch-Ag-Sciences/Veterinary-Supplies/Gauze-Bandages/&ref=breadcrumb

    http://m.enasco.com//product/SB51007U
     

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  14. Very good thought. The tricky part is finding one depending on where you live. I wonder if the Forestry Service offers something to the public.
     
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  16. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ G&G Evangelist

    Well you will have to look up the wilderness first aid instructor for your area, the classes usually run a couple days and cost as much as $1000.
    They host this particular first aid training for mountain climbers, river rafters and back country hikeing any place where even with a
    satellite phone it still may be 3++ hours from the time of the incident till you can reach help.
    Still for the money its well worth it, even if you dont take refresher courses to keep your certification its better than what little you may know now.
    In the last 13 years Ive attended 2 classes and in each I learned something Id never knew before.
    In a massive incident like an earth quake the national average Overall, cities staff an average of one ambulance per 51,223 population.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2331099

    My research shows that there are an estimated 35,000 to 48,000 ambulances in the United States.
    2015 US Population there were about 320,090,857 people.

    http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/784884.html

    Just spitballing this out there
    Crazy North Korea has successfully completed 5 underground nuclear tests (2 in 2016), they have functional medium range ballistic missiles (reverse engineered scuds) have launced at least one working satellite just last year, so the NK ICBM program is not far matured YET, not to mention in the last 4 years they now have a working submarine launched ballistic missile.
    Though as of to this date no long range submarines.
    So when they do combine their working satellite rocket with a lighter weight nuclear warhead we could see trouble☆.

    https://www.google.com/amp/freebeac.../pentagon-confirms-new-north-korean-icbm/amp/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taepodong-2
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyŏngsŏng-4
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_North_Korea

    So in the near future we will see the Return of the Communist nuclear threat.
    So you may want to brush up on fallout, and radiation first aid.



    It dont hurt to brush up on allergic reaction first aid.



    http://www.survivaltraining.com/our-courses

    https://www.nols.edu/en/coursefinder/courses/wilderness-first-aid-WFA/

    http://m.wildmed.com/wilderness-medical-courses.php

    http://landmarklearning.edu/courses/nols-wilderness-medicine-institute/wilderness-first-aid-(wfa)
     

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  17. It would pay to brush up / learn about edible and medicinal plants in your area, too.
     
  18. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ G&G Evangelist

    In Russian folk medicine chaga is used to treat cancers, often stomach and lung cancer, and it is likewise considered effective for other common stomach and intestinal such as gastritis, ulcers, colitis, and general pain. Since 1955 a a refined extract of the chaga fungus has been manufactured and sold in Russia, Eastern Europe, and Japan for the treatment of stomach and intestinal diseases.

    http://www.chagamushroom.com/chaga_in_the_news.htm

    Alaskans char Chaga into ash they use to spike their snuff aka. 'Black Bull'
    Bethel Alaskas Pete Twitchell sings a song about a aged Aana (Grandmother jonesing for her Black Bull fix) 'The Black Bull Blues'

    And our Northwest Alaska The Plants we eat.
    https://www.amazon.com/Plants-That-Eat-Nigiñaqtaut-traditional/dp/1602230749

    Iqaluich Niġiñaqtuat: Fish That We Eat This report, written by Anore Jones, documents the traditional Iñupiaq knowledge of fish as food, including names, sketches, identification details, brief life histories, and recipes for gathering, preparation and use.

    Jones, A. 2006. Iqaluich Niġiñaqtuat USFWS, Office of Subsistence Management, Fisheries Resource Monitoring Program, Final Report No. FIS02-023, Anchorage, Alaska.
    http://www.north-slope.org/departments/wildlife-management/studies-and-research-projects/fish
     

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  19. Brandhard

    Brandhard G&G Evangelist

    I haven't taken a wilderness first aid course, but I have gone through the Army TC3 tactical combat casualty care course a few times. It is a 40 hour course designed to teach immediate life saving measures for injuries from gunshot wounds, blast injuries, as well as care for burns, cuts, broken bones, heat injury, hypothermia. The skills that I have, did drive a lot of my choices in packing the kit. I have no illusions of providing long term care for anyone. My kit is intended to help keep someone alive until an ambulance can show up. If it's an apocalypse event, you'd better hope there's a nurse or doctor around!
     
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  20. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ G&G Evangelist

    I think Burn First Aid would be helpfull, there are problems with that thought though, a burn victim, even with modern medical care takes a team of trained medical professionals to care for them, and a very sterile environment, my experence from being burned back in the 1990's lent some insight into the stages of burn care, all in all, a little bit of burning gasoline can really change your life.

    If its getting burned cooking over a camp fire thing is one thing, as opposed to somebody huckin molotov cocktail's in your camp.
    In the event I get burned in a SHTF situation, my days would be severly limited.

    "Funny how in Zombie Apocalypse movies they Never fire bomb Zombies."
     
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