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Jeffro and anyone unfortunate to live in an area where the CCW battle rages knows why I am so agitated here. Anyone who is allowed to carry should also be involved! Call and e mail this guy to let him know to override the Governors veto!
You Wisconsin types, Shrike (et all) you should be e mailing and calling! It is not my state anymore and I have sent 2 dozen e mails, posted on 6 different sites and called everyone of them. Let's go gentlemen and Ladies! In Fact the ladies calls will carry more weight! All ladies of Gun and Game make a 2 minute call to each one of these people listed, it is all of our fight!!
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Proponent of gun bill likely to block it
Democratic leader who backed measure is expected to side with governor's veto
By STEVEN WALTERS
[email protected]
Posted: Feb. 1, 2004
Madison - In what could be a dramatic Capitol irony, a sponsor of the bill that would legalize the carrying of concealed weapons may cast the vote that keeps it from becoming law.
If the vote on the emotional issue is held as scheduled on Tuesday, Democratic officials say state Rep. Gary Sherman (D-Port Wing) is committed to vote not to override Gov. Jim Doyle's veto of that bill. That vote would, in effect, go against a measure he has been pressing for since he first ran for the Assembly in 1998.
But Sherman sees Tuesday's vote differently, according to those that know him best.
Now, he's an assistant leader of Assembly Democrats - under siege from Republicans who control both houses of the Legislature. Despite his philosophical support for the bill, his friends say, Sherman is convinced that Doyle, the first Democratic governor in 16 years, must not have any vetoes overridden.
Sherman's vote could decide whether Wisconsin becomes the 47th state to legalize the carrying of concealed weapons.
Delayed twice by Republicans, the vote will be close. All 59 Republicans are expected to vote to override the veto. If Sherman and the six other Assembly Democrats who backed the bill in November stick by those votes, the veto would be overturned and the bill would become law.
A veto override requires a two-thirds majority, or 66 votes, in the Assembly. The Senate already has voted to override the veto.
But those who know him say that it's dangerous to predict the actions of Sherman, a 54-year-old former president of the State Bar of Wisconsin, the former chief of Port Wing's small volunteer Fire Department and a man known for wearing shorts and black socks to important meetings with state officials.
Close to the vest
Sherman waved off predictions about how he will vote Tuesday.
"All such speculation is nothing but voodoo," he said in a statement.
"People in favor of (concealed weapons) tend to assume that I will vote against the override, while people opposed to the bill tend to assume the opposite.
"I have not been pressured by either side, except for the large number of messages received from citizens. Nobody has offered me anything or threatened me in any way."
Sherman's constituents are used to his independence, saying that's a characteristic of a region that is healthier for being a six-hour drive from Madison.
"Gary is very principled," said Bayfield Mayor Larry MacDonald. "I would guess that he's feeling a strong allegiance to the governor and Democratic Party."
As an assistant party leader, Sherman strongly feels that his party's governor should not have his veto overridden, added Jim Collins, chairman of the Democratic Party of Bayfield and Ashland counties.
Sherman "is very popular up here," Collins added. "He's very involved in education, and we've got a bunch of very small school districts up here that are really struggling. And he makes every rinky-dink (political) event in the area."
Collins said hunting rifles are much more popular than handguns in northern Wisconsin, where the Bayfield tourism agency offers daily recorded messages on fishing conditions and on cross-country skiing, ATV and snowmobile trails.
Concealed weapons is much more of an "urban issue," Collins said. "It's a hunting area up here."
Sherman's own words in defense of the concealed weapons bill might come back to haunt him, in light of how he is expected to vote this week.
"What is proposed is a limited permit process for some citizens to be able to get a permit. . . . This is not a wide open door. The streets will not suddenly be flooded with people carrying concealed weapons," Sherman wrote in an open letter to his northern Wisconsin constituents that a local paper published three months ago.
"Permit holders are not a significant source of gun violence. . . . As things stand now, only those of us who are determined to obey the law cannot carry concealed weapons."
Heavy pressure
The National Rifle Association, Assembly Republicans and hundreds of gun owners desperately want Sherman to stand by his earlier vote in favor of concealed weapons, which they say will allow people to protect themselves and their property.
On the other side are Doyle and most law enforcement groups, who say the measure would endanger the public.
NRA official Darren LaSorte conceded that Sherman may vote against his own bill.If he does, LaSorte said, the Democrat would make history.
As the push for the enactment of concealed weapons laws has crossed the nation, LaSorte said, "there's never been a situation" where a sponsor or co-sponsor of such a bill has personally blocked it from becoming law. He predicted that gun owners who back the bill will spend the weekend calling, or even visiting, Sherman at home.
In recent days, as the storm over the concealed weapon issue raged around him, Sherman sat stoically, hunched over his laptop computer at his front-row desk in the Assembly - a prime spot awarded to party leaders.
Sherman isn't the only legislator who has been lobbied on the measure in recent days.
Others have been inundated with e-mails, some of them threatening.
First-term Rep. Amy Sue Vruwink (D-Milladore) recently opened an e-mail saying her chances of being "assassinated" would increase if she voted to legalize concealed weapons.
Vruwink said one of her aides contacted law officers about the e-mail. Although Vruwink insisted she is undecided, others expect her to repeat her November vote in favor of legalizing concealed weapons.
Nonetheless, Assembly Democratic Leader Jim Kreuser of Kenosha expressed confidence that Doyle's veto would not be overturned.
He said that the 40 members of his party agreed last year that they would be relevant in the Republican-controlled Legislature only if they made sure no Doyle veto was overridden. Elected a leader by those same Democrats, Sherman has an obligation to carry out their wishes.
"The stronger the governor is, obviously the stronger our caucus becomes," Kreuser said.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/feb04/204410.asp
Contact Sherman at,
Representative Gary Sherman from Ashland, Iron, Bayfield and Sawyer counties
(888)-534-0074
[email protected]
You Wisconsin types, Shrike (et all) you should be e mailing and calling! It is not my state anymore and I have sent 2 dozen e mails, posted on 6 different sites and called everyone of them. Let's go gentlemen and Ladies! In Fact the ladies calls will carry more weight! All ladies of Gun and Game make a 2 minute call to each one of these people listed, it is all of our fight!!
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Proponent of gun bill likely to block it
Democratic leader who backed measure is expected to side with governor's veto
By STEVEN WALTERS
[email protected]
Posted: Feb. 1, 2004
Madison - In what could be a dramatic Capitol irony, a sponsor of the bill that would legalize the carrying of concealed weapons may cast the vote that keeps it from becoming law.
If the vote on the emotional issue is held as scheduled on Tuesday, Democratic officials say state Rep. Gary Sherman (D-Port Wing) is committed to vote not to override Gov. Jim Doyle's veto of that bill. That vote would, in effect, go against a measure he has been pressing for since he first ran for the Assembly in 1998.
But Sherman sees Tuesday's vote differently, according to those that know him best.
Now, he's an assistant leader of Assembly Democrats - under siege from Republicans who control both houses of the Legislature. Despite his philosophical support for the bill, his friends say, Sherman is convinced that Doyle, the first Democratic governor in 16 years, must not have any vetoes overridden.
Sherman's vote could decide whether Wisconsin becomes the 47th state to legalize the carrying of concealed weapons.
Delayed twice by Republicans, the vote will be close. All 59 Republicans are expected to vote to override the veto. If Sherman and the six other Assembly Democrats who backed the bill in November stick by those votes, the veto would be overturned and the bill would become law.
A veto override requires a two-thirds majority, or 66 votes, in the Assembly. The Senate already has voted to override the veto.
But those who know him say that it's dangerous to predict the actions of Sherman, a 54-year-old former president of the State Bar of Wisconsin, the former chief of Port Wing's small volunteer Fire Department and a man known for wearing shorts and black socks to important meetings with state officials.
Close to the vest
Sherman waved off predictions about how he will vote Tuesday.
"All such speculation is nothing but voodoo," he said in a statement.
"People in favor of (concealed weapons) tend to assume that I will vote against the override, while people opposed to the bill tend to assume the opposite.
"I have not been pressured by either side, except for the large number of messages received from citizens. Nobody has offered me anything or threatened me in any way."
Sherman's constituents are used to his independence, saying that's a characteristic of a region that is healthier for being a six-hour drive from Madison.
"Gary is very principled," said Bayfield Mayor Larry MacDonald. "I would guess that he's feeling a strong allegiance to the governor and Democratic Party."
As an assistant party leader, Sherman strongly feels that his party's governor should not have his veto overridden, added Jim Collins, chairman of the Democratic Party of Bayfield and Ashland counties.
Sherman "is very popular up here," Collins added. "He's very involved in education, and we've got a bunch of very small school districts up here that are really struggling. And he makes every rinky-dink (political) event in the area."
Collins said hunting rifles are much more popular than handguns in northern Wisconsin, where the Bayfield tourism agency offers daily recorded messages on fishing conditions and on cross-country skiing, ATV and snowmobile trails.
Concealed weapons is much more of an "urban issue," Collins said. "It's a hunting area up here."
Sherman's own words in defense of the concealed weapons bill might come back to haunt him, in light of how he is expected to vote this week.
"What is proposed is a limited permit process for some citizens to be able to get a permit. . . . This is not a wide open door. The streets will not suddenly be flooded with people carrying concealed weapons," Sherman wrote in an open letter to his northern Wisconsin constituents that a local paper published three months ago.
"Permit holders are not a significant source of gun violence. . . . As things stand now, only those of us who are determined to obey the law cannot carry concealed weapons."
Heavy pressure
The National Rifle Association, Assembly Republicans and hundreds of gun owners desperately want Sherman to stand by his earlier vote in favor of concealed weapons, which they say will allow people to protect themselves and their property.
On the other side are Doyle and most law enforcement groups, who say the measure would endanger the public.
NRA official Darren LaSorte conceded that Sherman may vote against his own bill.If he does, LaSorte said, the Democrat would make history.
As the push for the enactment of concealed weapons laws has crossed the nation, LaSorte said, "there's never been a situation" where a sponsor or co-sponsor of such a bill has personally blocked it from becoming law. He predicted that gun owners who back the bill will spend the weekend calling, or even visiting, Sherman at home.
In recent days, as the storm over the concealed weapon issue raged around him, Sherman sat stoically, hunched over his laptop computer at his front-row desk in the Assembly - a prime spot awarded to party leaders.
Sherman isn't the only legislator who has been lobbied on the measure in recent days.
Others have been inundated with e-mails, some of them threatening.
First-term Rep. Amy Sue Vruwink (D-Milladore) recently opened an e-mail saying her chances of being "assassinated" would increase if she voted to legalize concealed weapons.
Vruwink said one of her aides contacted law officers about the e-mail. Although Vruwink insisted she is undecided, others expect her to repeat her November vote in favor of legalizing concealed weapons.
Nonetheless, Assembly Democratic Leader Jim Kreuser of Kenosha expressed confidence that Doyle's veto would not be overturned.
He said that the 40 members of his party agreed last year that they would be relevant in the Republican-controlled Legislature only if they made sure no Doyle veto was overridden. Elected a leader by those same Democrats, Sherman has an obligation to carry out their wishes.
"The stronger the governor is, obviously the stronger our caucus becomes," Kreuser said.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/feb04/204410.asp
Contact Sherman at,
Representative Gary Sherman from Ashland, Iron, Bayfield and Sawyer counties
(888)-534-0074
[email protected]
