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Forest Service orders removal of poles flying American flag

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Doglips, Jul 22, 2002.

  1. Doglips

    Doglips G&G Newbie

    The US forest service does not want people flying the US flag on US land....NOW when I hinted that the forest service workers that started the fires were working for the Talaban you'all thought I were nut.... This is in the WASHINGTON TIMES..of course this occurred in what state????????????????????? California.....

    I love the lead in "The Forest Service has told California vacationers to remove poles flying the U.S. flag from property the service has leased to them."

    Can we ship these wacos to afganastan...someone call Fed-ex and get the rates...



    Forest Service orders removal of poles flying American flag
    By Audrey Hudson
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES


    The Forest Service has told California vacationers to remove poles flying the U.S. flag from property the service has leased to them.

    The order has angered one lawmaker, who has written the government, demanding that it "rescind this silly order."
    David Knickerbocker, an Army veteran and retired police officer, has been ordered to remove his flagpole, which has flown the American flag for more than two decades outside his summer cabin in the Eldorado National Forest.
    "I feel it is at times like these our country needs to be showing our unity and patriotism, not promoting ill-thought decisions, which prohibit flagpoles on United States soil," Mr. Knickerbocker said in a letter to Rep. Richard W. Pombo, California Republican.
    The "no-flagpole order" came from Debbie Gaynor, recreation forester, who said in a letter to Mr. Knickerbocker that "flagpoles are not authorized for recreation residences and must be removed" for him to continue leasing the land.
    "My flagpole has been up for more than 23 years, and like many in our cabin tract I am a patriotic American who has a flagpole," Mr. Knickerbocker said.
    The Forest Service directive "outraged" Mr. Pombo, who wants Forest Service Chief Dale Bosworth to overturn the decision.
    "At a time when wildfires are burning up much of the West, and Americans throughout the country face terrorist threats, it would seem to me that USDA Forest Service employees would have better things to do than to tell our citizens not to use flagpoles," Mr. Pombo said in a letter to Mr. Bosworth.
    "Are flagpoles more dangerous than forest fires? I urge you to rescind this silly order to remove flagpoles that fly our American flag and urge our field offices to return to more important matters," Mr. Pombo said.
    Adding a postscript, Mr. Pombo asked whether Mr. Knickerbocker would "be arrested for saying the Pledge of Allegiance on federal land," referring to the California court decision, later stayed, that declared that the words "under God" made public-school recitation of the Pledge unconstitutional.
    A Forest Service spokesman said Mr. Bosworth was out of town Friday and was unable to comment.
    The National Interagency Fire Center that day reported that more than 49,000 fires have scorched 3.5 million acres of land this summer. In California, more than 4,000 fires have burned 142,000 acres.
    Fire restrictions were placed on the Eldorado National Forest on July 12 through the end of the fire season, meaning that no campfires or charcoal barbecues are permitted outside designated campgrounds.
    The forest is located in the central Sierra Nevada, about an hour's drive from Sacramento.
    The recreational use of Forest Service land began in the early 20th century, when ¼-acre to ½-acre lots were offered to the public upon which they could build small cabins. Permits are regularly issued, and cabin owners are charged an annual fee.
    In addition to general cleanup and clearing fire fuels from the area, Mr. Knickerbocker was ordered to take down a clothesline tied to a tree and to paint his aluminum door a dark color to better match the cabin.
    Mr. Knickerbocker also was informed that his hot tub had not been approved by the agency.
    "Saunas, spas and hot tubs may be approved if incorporated into the main structure or deck, are not visible by neighbors or from public vantage points, and do not cause negative environmental impacts," according to the regional directives for recreation residences that Miss Gaynor cited in her letter.
    :p
     
  2. jerry

    jerry Since 2002 Forum Contributor

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    sounds like the commie home owner's assn. !
     

  3. Logansdad

    Logansdad Guest

    I'm fed up with all this liberal sewage
     
  4. PAPA G

    PAPA G G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    possibly the recreation director is a by the book girl??? forest service has regulations for the use of their facilities, besides the flag there is clean up regulations and an unpainted door also mentioned. any time you enter into a lease, the lessee must live up to the conditions prescribed. sucks as it may i go along with the Forestry service.
     
  5. Rooster

    Rooster G&G Newbie

    It reads like the problem is the "flag pole" not the flag. I agree with Papa G on this one but, Don't these forest people have enough to do putting out fires or supporting the ones that do, right now?
     
  6. wes

    wes G&G Newbie

    Sounds like my Homeowners ***. Maybe they just don't want someone to burn a flag and run it up the flagpole.
     
  7. Was that the same woman that helped a man kick a cub bear when the bear attacked a deer fawn in a park. HEHEHE. Environmental impact from a hot tub ??? The rangers don't want the Bald Eagles view of nature to be interrupted by the horrifing sight of a beer bellied middle-aged whiteman's buttnaked.
    The Utopians are comming!!! The Utopians are comming !!!!
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2002
  8. We all need to paste a copy of Dog's post and send it to the White House now!
     
  9. Rave

    Rave G&G Evangelist

    Sounds like another UN crock to me!:nod: :nod: :nod:
     
  10. FMTJ -- Utopians--that reminded me of a radio talk show. Do you listen to Chris Baker on kprc 950?