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Found Antique Rifle in Recent Home Demolition Debris. Any info would be appreciated!
We recently demolished our home in Ontario, Canada and found the barrel of this rifle sticking up in the pile of rubble. The gun has been damaged by rust as well as more badly damaged by the equipment use to demolish the home, both the stock and the metal. It has a leather strap, brass shoulder butt and flip up rear sites with tall front site. Hoping to get any info on it if possible. The number looks to read No4 MKHF1FTP but is difficult to say for sure. It also looks like there was a number or something below that number at one time, as looks like something has been scratched out. The top side of the barrel above where the lettering is, also has a 1925 so am thinking that is the year. From what I was able to find online, it looks like there may also be more identifying information scratched off as this gun does not have it, but looks like it has been marked/scratched off in the area it is supposed to be found. The brass butt end opens and there is a hole in there but nothing stored inside of it. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide on this rifle. Also wondering what it may be worth, even being in as bad a shape as it is and with the missing info.
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I would like to post photos from my phone but when I tried logging in, I got a 1020 error message that disallowed me to access the forum from my phone. It said to send a screen capture of the error message to the site owner, but without being able to access it, have no way to do it. Thank you.
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Enfield ~ No. 4 MK 1 ~ .303 British for sale (gunsinternational.com)
They were sporterized like the one above by cutting back the long stock and sold en mass. in the US and Canada. I bought my first deer rifle for $20, my pick out of a barrel with about a dozen in it. Killed 3 deer in 3 shots, so the do work. Probably the most common surplus rifle in Canada and close to the most common in the US for many years. Some were made in the US for the British under the land lease act, usually by Savage company. Since they were the common battle rifle of the British commonwealth they are found all over the world, many large animals including elephant and rhino were routinely killed with them. About the same power as the .308 rifle, slightly less. I carried mine as a young man in Grizzly country many times, and never had a need.
A point of interest. I am retired military and worked in intel and related fields. During the days when Russia attacked Afghanistan and the long war persisted, US trainers advised the nomadic tribes of the mountain regions. You may recall the movie Lone Survivor, that was the terrain. The nomatic tribes routinely carried the Birtish 303 rifle. It was common on a Sunday for the tribes to kill a goat and have a feast. When Sunday came, the goat was tied about a half mile to a mile away and the tribesmen would take turns shooting until the goat was killed. Using the elevated sights, and owning only one gun, they had the ability to judge range and dial in the elevation after only a few rounds. It would take only 5-6 rounds before the goat was killed and ready for butcher. The Russian Army was frequent to report that often a lone soldier would fall to his death from a snipers single round from the mountain above. After a long pause they would hear the sound of the gunshot, having no clue where it came from. This was the gun that created
that fear.
This from Wicki:
As documented by the National Security Archive, "the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) played a significant role in asserting U.S. influence in Afghanistan by funding military operations designed to frustrate the Soviet invasion of that country. CIA covert action worked through Pakistani intelligence services to reach Afghan rebel groups."[75]
Soviet–Afghan War - Wikipedia
There in an Enfield society or forum out there if you Google. Welcome to G and G.
Enfield ~ No. 4 MK 1 ~ .303 British for sale (gunsinternational.com)
They were sporterized like the one above by cutting back the long stock and sold en mass. in the US and Canada. I bought my first deer rifle for $20, my pick out of a barrel with about a dozen in it. Killed 3 deer in 3 shots, so the do work. Probably the most common surplus rifle in Canada and close to the most common in the US for many years. Some were made in the US for the British under the land lease act, usually by Savage company. Since they were the common battle rifle of the British commonwealth they are found all over the world, many large animals including elephant and rhino were routinely killed with them. About the same power as the .308 rifle, slightly less. I carried mine as a young man in Grizzly country many times, and never had a need.
A point of interest. I am retired military and worked in intel and related fields. During the days when Russia attacked Afghanistan and the long war persisted, US trainers advised the nomadic tribes of the mountain regions. You may recall the movie Lone Survivor, that was the terrain. The nomatic tribes routinely carried the Birtish 303 rifle. It was common on a Sunday for the tribes to kill a goat and have a feast. When Sunday came, the goat was tied about a half mile to a mile away and the tribesmen would take turns shooting until the goat was killed. Using the elevated sights, and owning only one gun, they had the ability to judge range and dial in the elevation after only a few rounds. It would take only 5-6 rounds before the goat was killed and ready for butcher. The Russian Army was frequent to report that often a lone soldier would fall to his death from a snipers single round from the mountain above. After a long pause they would hear the sound of the gunshot, having no clue where it came from. This was the gun that created
that fear.
This from Wicki:
As documented by the National Security Archive, "the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) played a significant role in asserting U.S. influence in Afghanistan by funding military operations designed to frustrate the Soviet invasion of that country. CIA covert action worked through Pakistani intelligence services to reach Afghan rebel groups."[75]
Soviet–Afghan War - Wikipedia
There in an Enfield society or forum out there if you Google. Welcome to G and G.
Thanks for that informative post. 
So is there any way of distinguishing markings that will signify when it was made? I also found a couple more things on it, upon closer inspection. One is R7 and the other says SURREY
So is there any way of distinguishing markings that will signify when it was made? I also found a couple more things on it, upon closer inspection. One is R7 and the other says SURREY
Thanks for that informative post.
If the receiver is marked "Long Branch", it is made in Canada likely during WW2.
I think the (F) engraved on the left side of the receiver means it was inspected and maybe repaired by Fazakerley Royal Arsenal before being stored postwar. A lot of those were sold back this way through Interarms and other importers.
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