EDIT: Holy crap this ended up long... sorry about the novel.
OK, so i know this has been covered countless times and I am generally not one to post defensive stuff like this, but got to reading some things about Hi-Point guns and also got into it with a good buddy of mine about them and am just infuriated right now so I decided I would share.
To preface this, I own many guns - everything from my beloved Hi-Point C9 to Walther P22s, Ruger P94, Beretta PX4 and basically everything in between (Although no 1911s) and I am VERY MUCH NOT a brand loyal person. I don't consider a brand as a status symbol at all. I am all about function.
WHAT THE F*CK is everyone's problem with these guns? Anytime i talk to someone about Hi-Points in person, it is nothing but a bash-fest of "those are junk" and "I wouldn't trust my life to them" and "if your life is only worth $150, then get a $150 gun." My first response to this is "Do you own one?" Naturally the answer is no. I follow that up with "Have you ever shot one?" Again, the answer is no.
I have owned my C9 for nearly 2 years now (And also have a 995TS that I LOVE) and have at least 3000 rounds down the pipe. I have had a total of 2 FTFeeds with the gun, and both times were because of grit in the magazine (I live and shoot in the desert in Nevada). Once cleaned, no problems again.
I have NEVER had to send the gun back for service or repair. I have never had a major failure - or even a minor failure of any kind with this weapon. I can put rounds into a 2" circle from 20 yrds regularly with it. It is comfortable to shoot and has minimal recoil.
Maybe im just lucky and HP messed up and gave me a good one, or maybe it is because i know how to operate and care for my guns. I can HONESTLY say that I have had more issues with my $700 PX4 and $650 P94 Ruger than I have ever had with my HP. Again, nothing significant with any of my weapons though.
To venture off on a tangent for a minute, I am an avid motorcyclist and dirt bike rider and have owned nearly all major brands of both street and dirt bikes. 2 Years ago i picked up a "disposable" Chinese dirt bike for my fiance to learn on. I figured it would be junk and not last long but it was a good tester to see if she would be interested. Long story short, out of all of my "Brand Name" dirt bikes (KTM, Yamaha, Kawasaki) and this Chinese bike, the Chinese bike is the ONLY one that has NEVER left me stranded, NEVER failed to start or run, NEVER broke anything significant. Granted, the big name bikes are built more for performance than anything else so yes, things will break and tuning is always needed, but I have NEVER had a problem with my cheepie bike and find myself riding it more than any of my others. This is because I know what to expect out of it and don't push it for more and I maintain and care for it properly.
Same thing applies to my Hi-Point. It is the one pistol that gets the most range time and is an absolute joy to shoot.
So my buddy that I got into it with is a big 1911 guy. I don't have anything against 1911s other than I just don't like how they fit my hand. Not comfortable to me at all. But we were shooting a little while ago and he just wouldn't even touch my hi-point, calling it unsafe and junk and not reliable. So I talked him into trading guns for a few mags. He went through the mags quickly without issue. I, on the other hand, had issues right from the start. Again, I don't find these guns uncomfortable so the hand grip was a bit un-natural for me. First round, pop, and a jam. OK. new gun, not used to it. Cleared the jam, tried again. Same thing. My buddy looks over and says "your limp wristing it". So i try and again and after about a mag and a half, I finally get the hang of it.
He says 1911s jam if you limp wrist it. fair enough. so I asked him what he had into his gun. He replies with "A little over $1200" HOLY SH*T! I handed him back his gun and took my HP back. I asked him, "So you wouldn't trust your life to a HP?" and he says "Not a chance in hell."
So i take a full mag (and were in a safe and controlled place for this mind you), slap it into the gun, and pull the trigger completely limp wristed - 8 times. Not a single jam and all 8 printed on paper. I looked at him and said "I would! and I can get 9 of these for the same cost you you have into yours" The next day he was out looking at HPs.
My point here is this. If you don't have one of these guns and have never shot one, KEEP YOUR UNEDUCATED OPINIONS TO YOURSELF. Im sick of hearing it. Yeah its an ugly $150 gun, it does exactly what it is supposed to do and without question I would trust my life, and my families lives to it without a thought. Its not the prettiest gun. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles. Its a $150 gun. You cant expect a Ferrari for the price of a Toyota corolla. But you can get a great Toyota corolla for the price of a Toyota corolla.
Like anything else in life, if you take good care of your things, they will return the favor. If you neglect or never even give something a real chance, of course you will be disappointed. If your expectations are too high for what you have, then you will never be happy with it. Its not about brand and status.
I love my HP and would pick it up over some of my $600+ guns in a life and death situation any day of the week and twice on Sunday!
I'm not really sure what I was trying to accomplish with this post but just wanted to rant and vent a bit and share some of my stories about my beloved HP.
Carry On
- Justin
OK, so i know this has been covered countless times and I am generally not one to post defensive stuff like this, but got to reading some things about Hi-Point guns and also got into it with a good buddy of mine about them and am just infuriated right now so I decided I would share.
To preface this, I own many guns - everything from my beloved Hi-Point C9 to Walther P22s, Ruger P94, Beretta PX4 and basically everything in between (Although no 1911s) and I am VERY MUCH NOT a brand loyal person. I don't consider a brand as a status symbol at all. I am all about function.
WHAT THE F*CK is everyone's problem with these guns? Anytime i talk to someone about Hi-Points in person, it is nothing but a bash-fest of "those are junk" and "I wouldn't trust my life to them" and "if your life is only worth $150, then get a $150 gun." My first response to this is "Do you own one?" Naturally the answer is no. I follow that up with "Have you ever shot one?" Again, the answer is no.
I have owned my C9 for nearly 2 years now (And also have a 995TS that I LOVE) and have at least 3000 rounds down the pipe. I have had a total of 2 FTFeeds with the gun, and both times were because of grit in the magazine (I live and shoot in the desert in Nevada). Once cleaned, no problems again.
I have NEVER had to send the gun back for service or repair. I have never had a major failure - or even a minor failure of any kind with this weapon. I can put rounds into a 2" circle from 20 yrds regularly with it. It is comfortable to shoot and has minimal recoil.
Maybe im just lucky and HP messed up and gave me a good one, or maybe it is because i know how to operate and care for my guns. I can HONESTLY say that I have had more issues with my $700 PX4 and $650 P94 Ruger than I have ever had with my HP. Again, nothing significant with any of my weapons though.
To venture off on a tangent for a minute, I am an avid motorcyclist and dirt bike rider and have owned nearly all major brands of both street and dirt bikes. 2 Years ago i picked up a "disposable" Chinese dirt bike for my fiance to learn on. I figured it would be junk and not last long but it was a good tester to see if she would be interested. Long story short, out of all of my "Brand Name" dirt bikes (KTM, Yamaha, Kawasaki) and this Chinese bike, the Chinese bike is the ONLY one that has NEVER left me stranded, NEVER failed to start or run, NEVER broke anything significant. Granted, the big name bikes are built more for performance than anything else so yes, things will break and tuning is always needed, but I have NEVER had a problem with my cheepie bike and find myself riding it more than any of my others. This is because I know what to expect out of it and don't push it for more and I maintain and care for it properly.
Same thing applies to my Hi-Point. It is the one pistol that gets the most range time and is an absolute joy to shoot.
So my buddy that I got into it with is a big 1911 guy. I don't have anything against 1911s other than I just don't like how they fit my hand. Not comfortable to me at all. But we were shooting a little while ago and he just wouldn't even touch my hi-point, calling it unsafe and junk and not reliable. So I talked him into trading guns for a few mags. He went through the mags quickly without issue. I, on the other hand, had issues right from the start. Again, I don't find these guns uncomfortable so the hand grip was a bit un-natural for me. First round, pop, and a jam. OK. new gun, not used to it. Cleared the jam, tried again. Same thing. My buddy looks over and says "your limp wristing it". So i try and again and after about a mag and a half, I finally get the hang of it.
He says 1911s jam if you limp wrist it. fair enough. so I asked him what he had into his gun. He replies with "A little over $1200" HOLY SH*T! I handed him back his gun and took my HP back. I asked him, "So you wouldn't trust your life to a HP?" and he says "Not a chance in hell."
So i take a full mag (and were in a safe and controlled place for this mind you), slap it into the gun, and pull the trigger completely limp wristed - 8 times. Not a single jam and all 8 printed on paper. I looked at him and said "I would! and I can get 9 of these for the same cost you you have into yours" The next day he was out looking at HPs.
My point here is this. If you don't have one of these guns and have never shot one, KEEP YOUR UNEDUCATED OPINIONS TO YOURSELF. Im sick of hearing it. Yeah its an ugly $150 gun, it does exactly what it is supposed to do and without question I would trust my life, and my families lives to it without a thought. Its not the prettiest gun. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles. Its a $150 gun. You cant expect a Ferrari for the price of a Toyota corolla. But you can get a great Toyota corolla for the price of a Toyota corolla.
Like anything else in life, if you take good care of your things, they will return the favor. If you neglect or never even give something a real chance, of course you will be disappointed. If your expectations are too high for what you have, then you will never be happy with it. Its not about brand and status.
I love my HP and would pick it up over some of my $600+ guns in a life and death situation any day of the week and twice on Sunday!
I'm not really sure what I was trying to accomplish with this post but just wanted to rant and vent a bit and share some of my stories about my beloved HP.
Carry On
- Justin