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Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by SwedeSteve, May 11, 2010.
Are they really the same ?? And only vary by their own lot #'s ??
It is what I read in Handloader Magazine,have not used W296 but have used H110.
Every manual I have shows the same charge weights for these 2 powders. I have read in handloader magazine that they are ther same.
Yes.Since Hodgdon began distributing Winchester powders, the data for these powders are exactly the same.
Yep, same stuff. Not even made by Hodgdon either, can't recall the name, St. Mark's Powder Co. or something like that. Probably made in the same machine, and pooped out of two different spouts into 296 jugs on one side and 110 jugs on the other side. Same story with Win 231 and HP38.
i've used both in my 357 security six and the Win. 296 throws a big fireball out the end of the barrel (very accurate even so), the H110 feels about the same but no fireball.
Yup,same powder,same load data.
Can you just back down 10% from max in either to establish an accurate load ??
Same for the old Winchester 571 and HS7 too. I used to make some smokin hot 9mm loads with 571. After they stopped selling the 571 I read HS7 was the same. I was soooo happy to have one of my favorite 9mm major powders back.......
I use the H110/296 in my 410 loads, have even mixed it. Rumer has it, they are dropping the 296, as they did the 571.
DuPont(IMR) is going to do the same with some othere powders,soon.
Yes,back it down 10% and go for accuracy.Best of luck Steve.Yes,they are the same. ,,,sam.
HMMM.......... Just read where Hogdon bought IMR in 2003, no wonder they have grown so much as of late.
They also have marketing rights on Winchester.Thats why all three powders are togather on their load site. ,,,sam.
From the Hodgdon manual -
There are still reports of overpressure "spikes" with light loads of these powders (which have been noted as identical) and the experts are still studying the phenomenon.
So, for a 24gr charge, the lowest recommended would be 23.3gr, not 21.6gr.
Iv'e learnt sumthin today. thanks guys, just saved me buying some 296!