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I had bought a brand new Simmons 6-18x 50mm scope for my Browning Xbolt .223. I know they're not a great scope but for my use (100yds) I thought it would be fine. I used the Browning integrated mounts on it.
At the range for the first time with it, I could not get my eye centered for clear view from a sitting position no matter what I did. This 75 yd indoor range only allows shooting while seated. No off-hand, no standing crouched at the bench. Unfortunately, the bench was designed at typical pistol range height but with an armrest running down the side. I was able to work with my other 2 rifles that had Bushnell and Nikon scopes. They were just fine with good clear sight picture when I finally turned by rest/bag on it's side to make it shorter and folded up my rifle cases and sat on top of them.
I tried the same with the Simmons but got the same result, one half of a clear image and a blurred, offset image overlaying the other and double crosshairs. I wanted to pull my hair out. When I shouldered the rifle with no rest standing up, the sight image was perfect so I am guessing I just couldn't get the gun low enough or my body high enough. I'll add that it was the only rifle with high mounts (due to 50mm objective) I shot that day. Back at home, I shoulder the gun standing and the sight picture is perfect. I'm 5-11" but my son is 6'-2" and he still had problems with same gun/scope combo.
Anyway, here's the best group I could manage guessing through the scope. 4 on the paper and a flier where I probably aimed at the "ghost image", though the shot at 5 o'clock looks slightly elongated so possibly 2 shots in that hole? That was disappointing but I may try some low mounts and one of my other 40mm scopes for shooting at this range. Nice rifle (still not crazy about the retread tire look of the recoil pad lol) but I'm guessing you have seen better shooting lol!
I am still resting on my laurels of my younger days. I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember the carnival trick-shot game where they handed you a beat up, open sight .22 secured by a short lanyard with the barrel passing through a ring large enough to allow you to aim but not swing the rifle into the midway. Loaded with 3 shorts, you had to shoot out a small circle with three shots from about 15' away The objective was to place 2 perfect shots side by side to take out the top and center and a perfect third shot directly under to take out the bottom. Of course it was impossible. The prize was a new Winchester .22 and of course nobody ever won. With open sights, I took a three-shot practice group to determine the compensation I needed to hold for the sights that were way off and then took my 3 shot attempt. I nailed it (or so I thought)! It was thing of beauty.
Guys were cheering, women were screaming and bringing their babies over for me to kiss! Then the Carney burst everyone's bubble and argued that he could still see a millimeter of the circle at the bottom. When you held the card straight up in front of your face, the circle was gone and nothing but clean white paper remained. He played the "hanging chad" game like a Florida pollster and claimed you could still see the circle on the inside edge of the hole where the round folded the paper back and was not cleanly punched. lol
At the range for the first time with it, I could not get my eye centered for clear view from a sitting position no matter what I did. This 75 yd indoor range only allows shooting while seated. No off-hand, no standing crouched at the bench. Unfortunately, the bench was designed at typical pistol range height but with an armrest running down the side. I was able to work with my other 2 rifles that had Bushnell and Nikon scopes. They were just fine with good clear sight picture when I finally turned by rest/bag on it's side to make it shorter and folded up my rifle cases and sat on top of them.
I tried the same with the Simmons but got the same result, one half of a clear image and a blurred, offset image overlaying the other and double crosshairs. I wanted to pull my hair out. When I shouldered the rifle with no rest standing up, the sight image was perfect so I am guessing I just couldn't get the gun low enough or my body high enough. I'll add that it was the only rifle with high mounts (due to 50mm objective) I shot that day. Back at home, I shoulder the gun standing and the sight picture is perfect. I'm 5-11" but my son is 6'-2" and he still had problems with same gun/scope combo.
Anyway, here's the best group I could manage guessing through the scope. 4 on the paper and a flier where I probably aimed at the "ghost image", though the shot at 5 o'clock looks slightly elongated so possibly 2 shots in that hole? That was disappointing but I may try some low mounts and one of my other 40mm scopes for shooting at this range. Nice rifle (still not crazy about the retread tire look of the recoil pad lol) but I'm guessing you have seen better shooting lol!
I am still resting on my laurels of my younger days. I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember the carnival trick-shot game where they handed you a beat up, open sight .22 secured by a short lanyard with the barrel passing through a ring large enough to allow you to aim but not swing the rifle into the midway. Loaded with 3 shorts, you had to shoot out a small circle with three shots from about 15' away The objective was to place 2 perfect shots side by side to take out the top and center and a perfect third shot directly under to take out the bottom. Of course it was impossible. The prize was a new Winchester .22 and of course nobody ever won. With open sights, I took a three-shot practice group to determine the compensation I needed to hold for the sights that were way off and then took my 3 shot attempt. I nailed it (or so I thought)! It was thing of beauty.
Guys were cheering, women were screaming and bringing their babies over for me to kiss! Then the Carney burst everyone's bubble and argued that he could still see a millimeter of the circle at the bottom. When you held the card straight up in front of your face, the circle was gone and nothing but clean white paper remained. He played the "hanging chad" game like a Florida pollster and claimed you could still see the circle on the inside edge of the hole where the round folded the paper back and was not cleanly punched. lol
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