I was trying to explain some of what happened on this site to a group of people at another forum, and my position on it all. In response I got hammered pretty hard. Please read this and let me know what you think. I thought I was pretty amenable, but apparently not. It is pretty easy for a guy like me to overlook the abrasiveness of some conflicts. If it doesn't concern me, I prefer to let people work out their differences. However, I, like most, do not tolerate open beligerence or senseless arguing that just takes up space without carrying any point. Opinions not supported by facts are just like excuses, which are just like... At gun and game, I tried to mediate more than a few conflicts and get people focused back onto constructive discussion of the issues. Sometimes it worked, sometimes the offenders left or were kicked off. I would rather give another person the chance to get back on track than send them packing, but I too have limits. Likewise, I am not easily offended by more colorful (and perhaps profane) language usage. That's a product of the environments I was raised in and learned to function with. I don't condone the excessive use of such speech, and I discourage my kids from using it because some people will get the wrong impression about them if they do, but it's the context of the language that is what really offends people. I don't take offense because to me it's just another (*@#$^) adjective. For others, the words evoke a programmed negative emotional response based on their upbringing and belief structure. For those types, use of profanity tends to inhibit their ability to absorb the point of the debate or discussion, and thus limits their ability to contribute. For that reason, I only tend to use expletives with people that seem to be able to deal with them, or when I need to generate special emphasis on a statement, regardless of who it is (usually when I have to command someone to do something without critical thought). I find that overuse of expletives tends to diminish their effectiveness, and causes some to avoid dialogue with me, so I prefer some restraint. Regardless of what you believe, taking offense to simple expletives is a programmed response. It's just as easy to accept that one could be programmed to take offense to the use of the words green, gosh or boloney. These are subjective interpretations of the reader that have nothing to do with the intentions of the author. That said, in our society, majority rules, and if most of the people woke up tomorrow and decided that the color of the sky was now going to be called "Tom" instead of blue, we'd start calling it Tom from now on. Since effective communication is ruled by the majority, those who plan to communicate effectively must conform their vocabulary to what is nominally accepted, or risk public scrutiny and censure. The bottom line is this: if you are trying to get your point across in a conversation, you will be most successful if you use language that is generally acceptable, and support your position as much as possible with facts, or at least logical arguments.