Have gun prices peaked? See what you think.

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Cyrano, Sep 23, 2010.

  1. Cyrano

    Cyrano Resident Curmudgeon Forum Contributor

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    Everyone who was a shooter or a collector before the 2008 election race really got underway remembers the sudden upsurge in firearms purchases and the ammo buying that went on when it looked like the Obamination might really win, starting in about October of 2008. Everyone who was a shooter or a collector remembers the prices on all sorts of firearms, especially semi-auto military-style rifles, skyrocketing in the first couple of months after he became the Doofus-in-Chief on January 20, 2009. We all remember cussing and kicking ourselves for not picking up that [insert gun you wished you'd bought before the prices went up here] while it was still halfway affordable. And we've been bitching about Empty Suit From Illinois Paranoia keeping gun prices artificially inflated ever since.

    Well, while going through a box of things today Her Imperial Majesty had boxed up when she cleaned my desktop while I was in the hospital, I came across the Century International Arms catalog from June, 2009. That's more than a year ago now, and it reflects the gun prices at the peak of "the ******* is gonna ban the guns" mania.

    I can't do a comparison of every gun in the June 2009 catalog because some of them are no longer being offered by Century. But let's compare what we can. "POR" means "Price On Request," also known as, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."


    Czech Model CZ- 70, .32 ACP, one 8 round magazine
    June 2009: $119.87 (NRA Fair); Fall 2010: $129.87 (NRA Good)

    Walther PP, .32 ACP, one 8 round magazine
    June 2009: $349.87 (NRA Good); Fall 2010: $299.87 (NRA Good)

    S&W Model 5946 Stainless, 9mm, one 15 round magazine
    June 2009: $339.87 (NRA Good); Fall 2010: $$299.87 (NRA Good)

    Shooters Arms Elite, .45 ACP, one 7 round magazine
    June 2009: $429.87 (NRA New); Fall 2010: $429.87 (NRA New)

    Shooters Arms Military, .45 ACP, one 7 round magazine
    June 2009: $429.87 (NRA New); Fall 2010: $429.87 (NRA New)

    M70AB2 folding stock AK-47, 7.62 ComBloc, two 30 round magazines
    June 2009, POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $489.87 (ditto)

    GP 1975 AK-47, 7.62 ComBloc, two 30 round magazines
    June 2009, POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $399.87 (ditto)

    1975 Bullpup AK-47, 7.62 ComBloc, two 30 round magazines
    June 2009, POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $499.87 (ditto)

    VZ2008 folding stock AK-47, 7.62 ComBloc, two 30 round magazines
    June 2009, POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $499.87 (ditto)

    CETME semi-auto Sporter, .308 Win., two 20 round magazines
    June 2009: POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $479.87 (ditto)

    GP WASR-10 wood stock AK-47, 7.62 ComBloc, one 30 round magazine
    June 2009, POR (NRA New); Fall 2010: $389.87 (ditto)

    C93 semi-auto rifle, .223 Rem, two 40 round magazines
    June 2009: POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $529.87 (ditto)

    Sterling semi-auto rifle, 9mm, two 34 round magazines
    June 2009: POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $449.87 (ditto)

    Golani semi-auto Sporter rifle, 5.56 NATO, two 35 round magazines
    June 2009: POR (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $519.87 (ditto)

    M-76 Sporter Rifle, 8mm Mauser, one 10 round magazine
    June 2009: $1,799.87 (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $1,399.87 (ditto)

    Mosin Nagant 91/30 Sniper Rifle, 7.62x54R, with replica PU scope
    June 2009: $499.87 (NRA Excellent); Fall 2010: $499.87 (ditto)

    Ultra 87 Pump Shotgun, 12 gauge
    June 2009: $219.87 (NRA New); Fall 2010: $149.98 (NRA New)


    Looking at the list, what I see is that in two cases the prices are exactly the same as they were at the height of "he's gonna grab the guns" paranoia. In one case, today's price is slightly higher than it was in 2009. But in all the rest, the prices are lower than they were in June of 2009. Not a lot lower in most cases, but lower.

    Now, I grant you this is comparing apples to apples from only one wholesaler. I'm making soup out of one onion here because I don't have catalogs from other wholesalers like Southern Ohio Gun, J&G and Classic Arms. But in my experience, the prices on the guns they have for sale that Century also sells, are generally within $10 to $20 of Century's prices.

    So, I'm willing to take the position that, barring the Democrats in Congress and the Doofus-in-Chief trying a kamikaze run at our gun rights when they become lame ducks on November 3rd, we shooters and collectors have seen gun prices peak due to the buying frenzy and they are now on the downward side of the slope. They won't ever get back to what they were when G.W. Bush was in the White House, but they should continue to drop slowly for at least another year or so if the dollar gets no weaker.
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2010
  2. Ten Man

    Ten Man G&G Evangelist

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    That is a mighty big IF!

    Great comparison, Cyrano.
     

  3. sourdough44

    sourdough44 G&G Regular

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    Handguns are doing better than long guns. I see lots of shotguns & rifles in the used market at very reasonable prices. I can only buy so much though. My latest was a Model 7 'Predator' in 243 with less than 20 rounds through it for under $500. The only thing that gets me a little excited are certain handguns at a good price with a local FTF sale.
     
  4. SKS NOOB

    SKS NOOB G&G Evangelist

    I've been watching the Tarus PT 1911 models and they have gone up to the price of some of the higher end ones over the past 2 years. Where there is money to be made, squeeze the customer. :12: