Ive been looking at those new Ruger made Marlin .45-70s. like the 1895 BBL or something. The new Ruger made ones are really nice. Dangit you're not helping my itch lol.
Let me make your itch worse. We have both the Marlins and Rossis in 357. They are all great and do everything a guy wants to do with a lever except bigger bullets are for bigger game. The Henry Golden Boy is very heavy but looks best on the wall. The Winchesters are Winchesters, the standard., hauled one around for decades, every gun guy should have one on 30-30.
My big gun is the Guide Gun, in the plain stainless and walnut model. Mine is a 2009, , 1895 GS model, made by Remlin.
Remington did the same as Ruger is now, a big advertising splash about the same gun. Mine was the first year in stainless, and my first stainless rifle.
I now have three stainless levers, like my early law enforcement handguns , model 60, 65, and 66 once you have one and carry it out in the weather, you never go back. Levers in stainless also look sharp.
When I bought mine, the hype was that Remlins were inferior, I have three of the Remlins now, nothing inferior at all when I put them side by side with the old Marlins and they shoot jacketed bullets bettter than the old shallow micro-groove.. . The Guide Gun has polish as fine as any you will find. I have lots of levers, even have one I am cutting for a suppressor, and some are scoped. But I refuse to put anything on the Marlin Guide Gun. No big loop lever or brass peep sights or picatanny rails, it is perfect as it is for what it is. If I want gawdy crap, I can hang it on my ARs, and I have. lol.
I hunt deer in open country and only kill old deer, so I do not risk a long shot with the levers, my 257 Wby does that. But when I want to look for hogs or just walk around with massive power, or camp in bear country, that carbine is the best.. The Marlin GG weighs 7 pounds, same at the Marlin 336 or Win 94. The balance point in carrying a lever must be where you can hold it loose in your hand where the action and barrel meet and it balances, you can carry it all day that way. It meets that test. Gun tests did a review on the blued version a couple years ago, they reported one inch groups with several brands of ammo. Worth the read, they gave it an "A".. Marlin 1895G Guide Gun 70462 45-70 Government - Gun Tests (gun-tests.com)
I have lots of load recipes for it from mild to wild. I cast a 340 grain bullet ( Lee mold) that I load as a trap door load, I use Unique pistol powder and get a measly 1200 fps or so. Trajectory is like a 22, not much use shooting over 100 yards, however it is plenty for Buffalo or deer or hogs. And the recoil is like a 243 or 410. Anyone can shoot it. For shooting snakes and turtle in a pond, it makes a big splash.
... And I have loads for 300, 350, and 405 grain bullets. I do not load to the max, but hot enough that the recoil is like my 300 Weatherby Mag. When I shoot it, I take some of each. I let it beat my shoulder a while, then enjoy the cast loads. You will love 45-70. It is a mans gun.
A pocket full of bullets looks like this, my last batch, some 350 and some 405 grain. There is no question you have something in the pocket. Only a little over twice the weight of 45 acp, but they are big. Below is a pic of my last batch, 350 and 450 grain. When you start popping rounds at a range, folks come take a look, I always let them shoot it. Most only fire one round.
405 grain bullet
rounds per pound 11.2
weight per 100 rounds 8.9
230gr Winchester Bal
Rounds per pound: 21.33
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.6
Remington Golden 36gr PHP
Rounds per pound: 133.33
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 0.75
/5.56X45 Green SS109 63gr
Rounds per pound: 37.21
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.69
Lever Guns have a cult following , Paco Kelley the retired DEA agent led the charge for many years and still is the authority on killing stuff with them from 357 to 454. The 45-70 is yet another cult within the clan. They can become addictive. It happened to me, and one leads to another and another, and...you have been warned.