Feel free to move this post if it's in the wrong place. Several folks have posted about the judge, or circuit court judge, or raging judge, etc. And we have had many discussions. Here are some typical patterns at Home Defense ranges approaching the maximum "normal" HD -- around 12 yards. This was patterned with Buckshot--specifically Remington 5-pellet Magnum 000 alternated with Federal 5-pellet 000 Magnum. (3 remington, 2 Federal). The Winchester loadings I have found spread out a bit too far. YMMV. This was done with the Tactical circuit court judge, open (i.e. blank sleeve) no choke. The Remington tend to spread out; the Federal TEND to clump together for the 4-pellet, but the 5-pellet mag load spreads out more. You can see some hits together--these are the Federals--where on the 5 pellet a couple tend to hit together and the other spread out. MVs measured by others are in the 1100-1200 range from the CCJ and the 800-850 from the 3" chamber 3" bbl judge. Penetration of the latter is between 12 and 16+ inches in ballistic gel over denim (the "410 handgun" site has the gel tests and THEIR patterns). These patterns with buck are typical from either the CCJ or the handgun; both impart a spin to the buckshot so it looks like this. Although the center is a little more sparse than the sides there's really no "donut" per se. I'd feel pretty comfortable using this for HD. The spread seems pretty good and the gun points naturally. The CCJ allows an under gun light on the rail mount which the gun should have. The gun is zeroed for 45 colt rounds at 40 yards. The buck is SLIGHTLY high but not enough to matter. Recoil is not an issue and would be suitable for smaller ladies and children to operate just fine. It handles like a revolver. If I were using the CCJ, I'd go straight buckshot. If I were using the 3" Judge, I'd go 4 buck and one colt or 3 buck and 2 colt; your choice. For the 2.5 chamber judges I'd use the Federal 4-pellet loading and maybe one or two colts. Or all buck.