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You could never get away with that now. The ACLU would sue the pants off you. :(
 

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I have seen this before never been able to completly confirm the history of it though. but I do like the idea of the pig greased ammo. actualy made a few myself when I first read it.:scool: by the way .22 guy will silver bullets kill ACLU members? or do I need something more powerfull?
 

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I'm pretty sure that even a stake through the heart won't kill an ACLU member-they're truly cursed!
 

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While I haven't been able to verify the Pershing reference, I wouldn't find it hard to accept as fact. Pershing was a vicious adversary and no bones all the way to his toenails Army General bent on winning and preserving the peace at any cost. If these extremists (I can't refer to them as Muslim anymore they neither love Allah nor anything else but violence and bloodshed)knew that this was their fate if caught they might very well hesitate. I may sound extremist myself but not so much as them beheading the innocent and murdering women and children! Feed em a lil bacon afore you put a hog lard lubed .45 betwixt their running lights!
 

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Okay first off, the ACLU has, and continues to, defend Christian organizations when their civil rights are violated. Hell, the defended Jerry Falwell himself on at least two occasions: HB Magazine: International Politics - ACLU Defending Religious Liberty

That being said, that idea is hysterical and I love it!

(See? I can be for both sides of an issue if it's the right issue).

Frankly, once you've exposed yourself to a shooting war, aside from outright torture, the methods used to kill you, so long as they're not unduly cruel in the collateral damage or "designed purely to cause suffering" arenas, shouldn't matter at all in an international law sense, in my opinion. Dead is dead, after all. Bacon-bullets or smart shells, fragmentation grenades or a 5.56mm round, you accept the risk that one of those things will be tearing into you.

I'm not certain it's even a civil rights issue, anyway. Now, slathering a living prisoner with bacon fat might be a bit much if they truly hold those beliefs (the problem there is, of course, we've been a little less than discriminating sometimes with who we take into custody), but when you're being angaged and killed? Pfft!

If a GI had to beat an Islamofascist foe to death with a pig's leg because that was the only weapon he had available, then them's the breaks, as they say. And if pork fat happens to be a good material for lubrication for reloading...then that's the way it goes.

Although...the non-crazy Muslims are actually cool with exceptions. You know they can even put off their daily prayers and catch up later if they're doing something really important? See, the non-crazies recognize exceptions...man, we need more of them taking charge over there.

Heh...the pig-leg thing reminds me of Cotton on King of the Hill and one of his war stories.

"A Tojo torpedo sent our troop ship to the bottom. I could only save three of my buddies: Fatty, Stinky, and Brooklyn. They were kind of like you fellas, only one of them was from Brooklyn. Out of the sun came a Tojo Zero and put fitty bullets in my back. The blood attracted sharks. I had to give 'em Fatty. Then things took a turn for the worse. I made it to an island, but it was full of Tojos! They were spitting on the U.S. flag! So I rushed 'em, but it was a trap. They opened fire and blew my shins off. Last thing I remember, I beat 'em all to death with a big piece of Fatty."

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You know that could mean the end of the war in Iraq by putting the word out that the American military is greaseing there bullets with hog lard and burieing the dead Muslims with Hog parts stuffed up there a__...LOL
 

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They would make it a civil rights issue. Dead or not, it wouldn't be respecting thier cultural beliefs. As far as the ACLU defending anything Christian, I think that's a load of crap. Not saying it didn't happen, but it's not where their hearts truly are. Just my honest opinion.
 

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LSA oil

Well, I still use LSA oil on all of my rifles & pistols, I have since 1958 and some of it is still made out of pig greese.
Some of it will naturally rub of on all of my bullets and there goes their 72 virgins, oh well !
 

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They would make it a civil rights issue. Dead or not, it wouldn't be respecting thier cultural beliefs. As far as the ACLU defending anything Christian, I think that's a load of crap. Not saying it didn't happen, but it's not where their hearts truly are. Just my honest opinion.
Not sure I understand how that can be. Either they do it or they don't. Can't see how it matters one way or the other. If their actions are fair and they defend Christians same as anyone else then, almost by definition, their hearts are in it. See, the ACLU doesn't have to take any case they don't wanna. But they defend Christians all the time. Go look around and find out.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire

They walk the talk. You never see it the other 'way round you know. Just 'cause they're on the other side of cases when certain religious groups try and abuse others' civil liberties doesn't mean they won't defend those groups when theirs are violated.

Not saying they don't have members with an agenda, because they do, but actions matter.

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As cursed and berated as the ACLU is and while they have defended cases in the past I wish they hadn't it is important to note that they are mainly in the business of making certain the courts and law enforcement follow the letter of the law in everything they do. They ARE there to make sure the authorities get it right the first time crossing all their "T's" and dotting all their "i's" . To put it bluntly they are the ones trying to make sure Government obeys the Constituition and Bill of Rights. They do have some in their ranks with agendas, but then again so do all of the District and U.S. Attorneys offices!
 

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They ARE there to make sure the authorities get it right the first time crossing all their "T's" and dotting all their "i's" .
the problem is they worry more about the "i"s and "t"s than the fact that a crazy man just killed an entire family and then get his convection over turned and set him free.
 

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Not actually damage855, they worry about HOW law enforcement collects it's evidence, I have worked behind a badge and while at times frustrating it does tend to keep you honest! All of us wants the guilty party to pay for his/her crimes in spades however it is counter productive to go hell bent for leather after the wrong person or worse violate an innocents rights who pays later for a crime he/she didn't commit. As sad as it seems there is much truth in the adage "I would rather see a 100 guilty men freed than one innocent convicted!"
 

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Not sure I understand how that can be. Either they do it or they don't. Can't see how it matters one way or the other. If their actions are fair and they defend Christians same as anyone else then, almost by definition, their hearts are in it. See, the ACLU doesn't have to take any case they don't wanna. But they defend Christians all the time. Go look around and find out.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
They walk the talk. You never see it the other 'way round you know. Just 'cause they're on the other side of cases when certain religious groups try and abuse others' civil liberties doesn't mean they won't defend those groups when theirs are violated.
Not saying they don't have members with an agenda, because they do, but actions matter.
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I'm still going to have to disagree with you on this. I think the number of anti-American, anti-Christian causes of the ACLU far outweigh anything else.

Is the ACLU Anti-Christian?
Many people view the ACLU as anti-Christian (Anti-Christian Lawyers Union, etc). With all the cases they take beating away any symbol of Jesus in the public square, it's hard to think they AREN'T anti-Christian. As the new symbol of Los Angeles shows, they don't seem to have a problem with other religions, just Christianity it appears. The question is, are they really anti-Christian?

The ACLU says they are the guardian of liberty who works to defend and preserve individual rights. However, they are less fighting for something than fighting against something. They fight against intelligent design and abstinence education not because they infringe on rights, but because they are part of an order they believe needs to be abolished.

Being anti-Christian implies that they intend to specifically attack Christianity as an end of itself. As Roger Baldwin (a co-founder of the ACLU) said of the goals of the ACLU:

"I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. I don't regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted, and I traveled the United Front road to get it.
The ACLU's actions are a part of a political worldview they hold. It was founded by communists and though many members and lawyers would say they aren't communist today that foundation influences the way they look at things. They are militant privacy advocates and anti-government to the point of wanting to take away valid tools from law enforcement. This is why they helped Rush Limbaugh, not because they support his speech, but because their causes temporarily aligned when the Florida prosecutor's office seized his medical records unjustly. That is not to say that the government is lily white when it comes to privacy, but to say that monitoring phone calls of suspected terrorists leads to a police state is ludicrous and scare-mongering.

The ACLU attacks the traditional foundation of the family in society. This is why they fight against parental notification of abortions, school choice, and the parent's role in educating their children. In fact, they attack traditional forms of authority beyond that of the state. In communist nations, the state is the highest authority and all needs and actions must be made in connection with what is best for the state. That is why you can talk about purges and gulags and communists don't flinch. Communism requires them.

Their attacks on Christianity aren't designed to eradicate Christianity, per se. They are designed to establish a social order (or more appropriately destroy the existing order) and customs that advance their ideas and Christianity isn't a part of it. In short, they aren't anti-Christian in intent, they are anti-Christian in effect.

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