I had posted on here a while ago about my first black bear hunt. and you guys had told me to get a climbing stand, well I bought one Friday night put it together and tried it out yesterday. I got the Summit Titan, because i'm a big fellow. I noticed that when it sat on the tree when I was trying to climb the spikes on the platform would sink into the tree making it rather difficult to move with my feet. I tried the stand as just above ground level and it was comfortable and I had plenty of room but still these stands aren't for everybody. Needless to say i'm going to take this stand back and get a ladder stand. Im going to put it up at my primary hunting spot and just ground hunt at the rest of them. anyone else hunt primarily from the ground with success?