I Pledge allegiance by John McCain

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Oxford, Jul 8, 2002.

  1. Oxford

    Oxford G&G Evangelist

    Ran across a copy of John McCain's speech today regarding the story of his prison time followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. With the controversy of the words "under God" in the pledge I enjoyed reading the pledge the way it should be read.


    From a speech made by Capt. John S. McCain, US, (Ret) who represents
    Arizona in the U.S. Senate:

    As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war
    during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA
    kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA
    moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many
    as 30 to 40 men to a room. This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change
    and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf
    of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.

    One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.
    Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. He didn't wear a pair of
    shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He
    later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School. Then he
    became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike
    had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our
    military provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.

    As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners
    to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were
    handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing. Mike got himself a
    bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American
    flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt. Every afternoon, before we had a
    bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say
    the Pledge of Allegiance. I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the
    most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark
    cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.

    One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and
    discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it. That
    evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of
    all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours. Then,
    they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as
    well as we could. The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the
    middle on which we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the
    room. As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the
    excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there
    beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and
    his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there
    with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another
    American flag.

    He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He
    was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able
    to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.

    So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget
    the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build
    our nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our
    duty, our honor, and our country.

    "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
    republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with
    liberty and justice for all."


    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    So what the hell has happened to that semi-socialist since? You would think his love of freedom and the american way would have persevered after all that!

  3. The active lobbyists with money these days are the liberal democrats.

    I have lost all respect for John McCain and I always did think he shoulda been court martialed for signing the letter for the NVA denouncing the US involvement in Nam when he was a POW.

    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    Thats right I forgot about that Dale. Many a better man than him took a beating and still would not sign!
  5. Oxford

    Oxford G&G Evangelist


    You're right. He's made a 180 degress left turn somewhere since his return from Vietnam.

    That wasn't the intent of my original post, though. I just enjoyed reading the pledge of allegiance again, regardless of who says them, with all the words included.


    SPOCAHP ANAR G&G Enthusiast

    As for McCain; preservation of self is numero uno. I will not condemn him for what he signed while under duress of a hostile capture if it saved his life, unless he caused the death of others. However I will say that he is one guy I wish had never returned from NAM.

    I think of crap when McCain speaks - both stink!

    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    I hear that Oxford, but It means much more coming from someone who learned by his hardships. I think he's been programed like that movie with Frank Sinatra who was brainwashed to assassinate later...what was the name of that movie?
  8. Artillius6918

    Artillius6918 Guest

    It's interesting, to me, to see someone like McCain, who has become so rabidly anti gun, try to be such a patriot! Guess you can really talk out of the side of your mouth! Hope he never gets to be the pres.
  9. Klaus

    Klaus Guest

    Just how OLD is that speech? He sold his soul to the Libs long ago.
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2002
  10. I think at one time this man had high values as to what was right and wrong, and now the corruption of his political involvement has steered him in the wrong direction. Just my opinion. He knows better.
  11. jerry

    jerry Since 03-15- 2002 Forum Contributor

    Hey Artillius, whats the avitar? I can't quite make it out. Looks like Jimmy Paige with an Amish guy playing keyboards on my lap top screen.
  12. NRAJOE

    NRAJOE YOU TALKIN' TO ME!? Forum Contributor

    I believe Artillius's avatar is Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart. I don't recall the name of the album (I used to have it,big fan of Zappa) I believe it has the Muffin man song on it.
  13. Calvin

    Calvin G&G Evangelist

    I'm glad McCain survived, but to turn coat like he has is inexcusable. I don't respect him at all anymore. I know a guy who spent 3 years as a POW in Nam and he was a regular leg. He got beat in ways McCain never even heard of by the VC. This guy is as pro-gun as can be, as he says it will make dam* sure this won't happen to him again. Wonder where McCain went wrong?
  14. wolfscout1

    wolfscout1 Guest

    "McCain went wrong" when he became a politican.