If ammo was available and affordable would you be interested in a modern pistol chambered in 7.62x25?

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K75RT

Discussion Starter · Oct 13, 2021

Just looking to see opinons on the topic...If Ruger/or name your favorite manufacturer, made a handgun in the 7.62X25 chambering would you be interested in it as a defense/hunting/round? The 7.62x25 is a hot round...in its military configuration it is a ball round; if someone were to make a 7.62 hydrashok/gold-dot bullet for the cartridge would you be interested?

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Wicked109

· #41 · 10 mo ago

How powerful is 7.62 x25?

Might be a handful when shooting. Might also need a larger firearm (bigger grip or weight) beyond what would be comfortable for me to shoot.
Too many IF's for me to consider getting one.

Performance.
Various Tokarev cartridges achieve muzzle velocities around the range of 1,300 to 1,800 fps.
A common velocity is around 442 metres per second (1,450 ft/s)
About 544 joules (401 ft⋅lb) of energy.

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Jdcujog89

· #42 · 4 mo ago

Wicked109 said:
How powerful is 7.62 x25?

Might be a handful when shooting. Might also need a larger firearm (bigger grip or weight) beyond what would be comfortable for me to shoot.
Too many IF's for me to consider getting one.

Performance.
Various Tokarev cartridges achieve muzzle velocities around the range of 1,300 to 1,800 fps.
A common velocity is around 442 metres per second (1,450 ft/s)
About 544 joules (401 ft⋅lb) of energy.

I cab tell you from shooting a tt33 (tok) and the 52 the recoil is not bad for the energy. Ppu is basically only current manufacturer/importer of hollow point ammo but this is why we reload. It's definitely a blast even with ammo prices going up due to lack of milsurp availability.

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Outpost75

· #43 · 4 mo ago

Recoil

Wicked109 said:
How powerful is 7.62 x25?

Might be a handful when shooting. Might also need a larger firearm (bigger grip or weight) beyond what would be comfortable for me to shoot.
Too many IF's for me to consider getting one...

Recoil impulse isn't noticeably greater than 9x19mm.
The TT pistol is flat and very concealable in a proper holster. Very flat shooting. Accurate with good ammo. Mine is more accurate out to 100 yards than a typical US M1 carbine and lots easier to carry.

I load the .309" diameter Hornady XTP bullet in Starline brass with Federal 200 primer and 7.4 grains of Autocomp for 1450 fps, which approximates service load velocity.

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Jdcujog89

· #44 · 4 mo ago

Outpost75 said:
Recoil

Recoil impulse isn't noticeably greater than 9x19mm.
The TT pistol is flat and very concealable in a proper holster. Very flat shooting. Accurate with good ammo. Mine is more accurate out to 100 yards than a typical US M1 carbine and lots easier to carry.

I load the .309" diameter Hornady XTP bullet in Starline brass with Federal 200 primer and 7.4 grains of Autocomp for 1450 fps, which approximates service load velocity.

I wish I could find some of those xtps.

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Cyrano

· #45 · 4 mo ago

I can tell you that my Model 57 Yugo pistol, which has the same controls as the M1911, is not a hand-spanker and has minimal muzzle rise. And that little can be eliminated by the installation of an aftermarket muzzle brake which replaces the barrel bushing. A little old lady who did not have arthritis would have no trouble staying on target.

It also has a secondary "weapon": its report. ncnascarlady has told the story of the deputy putting her through pistol permit training coming down the line to ask her what she was shooting, because it was so loud. I can add to that the time one of my gun club's members came over to find out what I was shooting, that was louder than his 6 inch barreled S&W Model 29. I will note that my Model 57 makes the Hollywood "bah-WHOOM" of Harry Callahan's Hollywood Model 29 from the movies - only it does it in the real world. Add the muzzle brake, and the report will make the bad guy think you have a Barrett bullpup in .50 BMG!

As far as power goes, if that is a concern it is worth remembering that one of the specifications for the pistol intended to replace the M1895 Nagant revolver was that it had to be capable of killing a horse with one shot at 25 meters, The 7.62x25 TT-33 Tokarev pistol which won the competition, of which my Yugo Model 57 is a variant, had to meet that specification. That good enough for you?

When I talk to people looking for a home defense pistol, especially older ladies who dislike revolvers, one of my recommendations is the Tokarev, preferably the Model 57. As I've said, it has little felt recoil, good sights, is loud enough to terrify most goblins, and has more than enough hitting power to deal with bad actors, even if they are wearing body armor. Please note that the Moscow Militia, the police force for the capitol of Russia, hate the Tokarev because the 7.62 Tokarev round punches right through their military surplus body armor.

A pistol which can do all that is a good choice for personal defense, wouldn't you agree?

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blaster

· #46 · 4 mo ago

I have a Romanian TT33 and a couple of CZ 52 s. sad to say I can't hit 💩 with any of them. their sights are atrocious! even for a Military surplus. I even sent one of the 52's slides to our old friend Seabee Scotty and had him mill it to take common 1911 sights. that helped but I still wasn't satisfied. when they were made, CZ hadn't perfected their ergonomics yet and they are the only CZ pistols that don't "feel good" in my hands. I really wish CZ would put out a modern double stack pistol in 7.62x25.
the TT33 feels so small & skinny in my hands that I can't get a good grip to shoot it accurately. I can only make out the miniscule sights in full bright sunlight with my gasses on. if it was double stack, the grip would probably fit me a lot better but its not.
I really like the 7.62x25 cartridge. hand loading really brings out its potential. I had 85 gr. XTP loads that chronoed over 1800 fps!

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PaleHawkDown

· #47 · 4 mo ago

I love my CZ52, and when I still had good eyesight/depth perception, before the stroke, I could regularly hit a rifle clanger at 75 yards with it. That said, the trigger has sharp edges, and atrocious slap, so if I shot more than a half a box of ammo, I would pay for it.

I was never as good with the TT-33, despite the great trigger on my example.

I'd still love a modern carbine in the round.

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blaster

· #48 · 4 mo ago

a carbine in 7.62x25 would be awesome!

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shop tom

· #49 · 4 mo ago

blaster said:
I have a Romanian TT33 and a couple of CZ 52 s. sad to say I can't hit 💩 with any of them. their sights are atrocious! even for a Military surplus. I even sent one of the 52's slides to our old friend Seabee Scotty and had him mill it to take common 1911 sights. that helped but I still wasn't satisfied. when they were made, CZ hadn't perfected their ergonomics yet and they are the only CZ pistols that don't "feel good" in my hands. I really wish CZ would put out a modern double stack pistol in 7.62x25.
the TT33 feels so small & skinny in my hands that I can't get a good grip to shoot it accurately. I can only make out the miniscule sights in full bright sunlight with my gasses on. if it was double stack, the grip would probably fit me a lot better but its not.
I really like the 7.62x25 cartridge. hand loading really brings out its potential. I had 85 gr. XTP loads that chronoed over 1800 fps!

Find some grips for the Chinese T-54 copy of the T-33. They make a world of a difference in feel and handling.

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40nascar

· #50 · 13 d ago

Nope ,I have no interest whatsoever for a handgun in this caliber. I value my hearing too much!!

Would love a carbine, but not a handgun.

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BigEd63

· #51 · 13 d ago

I had my hopes for years but I'm not holding my breath anymore.

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Jdcujog89

· #52 · 13 d ago

40nascar said:
Nope ,I have no interest whatsoever for a handgun in this caliber. I value my hearing too much!!

Would love a carbine, but not a handgun.

I've accidently set one off without my ear pro being fully set and honestly wasn't any worse than some of the other calibers I've shot w/o ear pro. And that's with being under overhang at outdoor range.

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