I'm looking to by a cheap military surplus rifle and I think I have narrowed it down to the Swiss K-31($100) or Mosin Nagant M91/30($75-100). I know the K-31 ammo is expensive and I don't reload but I have read that Wolf is going to be selling the 7.5 x 55 in about a month so that should bring down the price of the ammo. What do you all think? K-31 or Mosin.
K-31 or Mosin Nagant
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You may think so, but in fact the truth is that everyone should have at least two. I have learned my lesson with the K31. I had it for less than a month and my darling first decendant prematurely "inherited" itDANA said:
She is worth it ,though... I think.... sometimes...I own a 91/30 and am planning to acquire (yet another) K31. I like both. The Swiss-Miss is definately the more accurate of the two (even after glass-bedding the 91/30), but the commercial ammo pricing is brutal.
If you decide on the K31, I would reccomend a set of reloading dies. You should never shoot the GP11 ammo in your K31. My logic is simple: If you don't shoot GP11 then the milsurp stock would last longer, and I like them
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Wolf selling the 7.5mm ammo? SWEEET! You sure about that though?
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Mosin All the way!!!! The ammo is more cheap and plentiful. Although, on some sites they have 60 rds for around $10, the Mosin ammo is still cheaper
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No way!!!!!!!!!!FutureMarine said:
Anyone that has a K31 is never gonna say that.
Even if some ammo is high priced. and perhaps Wolf ammo will be reasonably cheap, the superior quality of the Schmidt Rubin rifle, itself, over the inferior designed and hard to open bolts of the M/N make the Schmidt Rubin a far, far better gun to own and shoot.
I guarantee if you could put either gun in the hands of a Russian combat shooter, and he had the ability to choose either, he'd choose the Scmidt Rubin.
I've wondered how many lives were lost due to the poor bolt operations of the M/N?
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Poor bolt operations of the MN? I'd say my only complaints about it are feeding the mag and operating the safety. And of course the Schmidt Rubin will be far more accurate.
That said, the Mosins are definitely more common and will be around when the SRs have dried up and gone up in price to what they're actually worth. So yes, get the Rubin. If Wolf will be making the ammo, I think I'll get one too.
That said, the Mosins are definitely more common and will be around when the SRs have dried up and gone up in price to what they're actually worth. So yes, get the Rubin. If Wolf will be making the ammo, I think I'll get one too.
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I referrenced the bolt issues only because I have never heard of Schmidt Rubin owner complaining of a sticking bolt that needed a five pound sledge to open.BattleRifleG3 said:
(even with chamber cleaning I have never have seen a Mosin totally FREE of sticking issues).
In my book Mosin Nagants have been terribly over-rated. If it weren't for the cheap prices (think why that might be, too) they would be completely avoided by collectors.
I mean.....put a $300 price tag (something you might expect with a M96, less than a 1903, or any other great, GREAT gun) on a Mosin and they'd nearly all still be on the 'for sale' market.
Ninety percent (or better) of Mosin owners have sticky bolt issues...'nuf said.
Everyone must have seen the "Enemy at the Gates" - wonder if they were trying to depict something true when they show that the political officer guy (one with the glasses) can't get the bolt open and hands the rifle to Vassily, or that he is merely untrained in the use of the rifle ? :hmmm:Dale said:
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