lead ban

Discussion in 'Survival Gear' started by aaalaska, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. aaalaska

    aaalaska G&G Newbie

    If you cast or think you might this should interest you,.

    All Gun Owners, Hunters and Shooters:
    With the fall hunting season fast approaching, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under Lisa Jackson, who was responsible for banning bear hunting in New Jersey, is now considering a petition by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) - a leading anti-hunting organization - to ban all traditional ammunition under the Toxic Substance Control Act of 1976, a law in which Congress expressly exempted ammunition. If the EPA approves the petition, the result will be a total ban on all ammunition containing lead-core components, including hunting and target-shooting rounds. The EPA must decide to accept or reject this petition by November 1, 2010, the day before the midterm elections.

    Today, the EPA has opened to public comment the CBD petition. The comment period ends on October 31, 2010.

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) -- the trade association for the firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industry -- urges you to submit comment to the EPA opposing any ban on traditional ammunition. Remember, your right to choose the ammunition you hunt and shoot with is at stake.

    The EPA has published the petition and relevant supplemental information as Docket ID: EPA-HQ-OPPT-2010-0681. If you would like to read the original petition and see the contents of this docket folder, please click here. In order to go directly to the 'submit a comment' page for this docket number, please click here.

    NSSF urges you to stress the following in your opposition:

    There is no scientific evidence that the use of traditional ammunition is having an adverse impact on wildlife populations.
    Wildlife management is the proper jurisdiction of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services and the 50 state wildlife agencies.
    A 2008 study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on blood lead levels of North Dakota hunters confirmed that consuming game harvested with traditional ammunition does not pose a human health risk.
    A ban on traditional ammunition would have a negative impact on wildlife conservation. The federal excise tax that manufacturers pay on the sale of the ammunition (11 percent) is a primary source of wildlife conservation funding. The bald eagle's recovery, considered to be a great conservation success story, was made possible and funded by hunters using traditional ammunition - the very ammunition organizations like the CBD are now demonizing.

    Recent statistics from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service show that from 1981 to 2006 the number of breeding pairs of bald eagles in the United States increased 724 percent. And much like the bald eagle, raptor populations throughout the United States are soaring.

    Steps to take:

    1. Submit comment online to the EPA. Submit comment online to the EPA.

    Contact Lisa Jackson directly to voice your opposition to the ban:
    Lisa P. Jackson
    Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
    1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
    Washington, DC 20460
    (202) 564-4700
    Fax: (202) 501-1450
    Email: [email protected]

    3. Contact your congressman and senators and urge them to stop the EPA from banning ammunition. To view a sample letter, click here.
  2. SwedeSteve

    SwedeSteve Freedom Zealot Forum Contributor

    Thanks for the heads up.

  3. Dutch

    Dutch G&G Evangelist

    Thanks. The lead ammunition thing is an ongoing battle.

  4. I think the EPA has more pressing issues at hand than lead. Maybe they should travel to the Gulf.
  5. It is deeper than that; it is that a beauracracy is making or setting the standard by-passing the Senate and House. They have no authority to ban lead, it is part of their liberal left-wing agenda. It happened in California now they want to push it on the rest of the US.
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  7. Wow!, and i thought it was only the mickey mouse government in Brussels that were trying this on in Europe!. We have a ban on using lead loaded shotgun shells over shallow water now, but other wise it's on the back burner here. The UK is preparing some report now for the EU, and based on that, they will make the final decision. They did'nt like the one's the scandinavian countries did. So they called them inconclusive and got the most gun hating country in Europe to compile one instead[​IMG].
    The Swedish government have said, if a alternative can be used with the same performance as lead, they will accept a ban. Luckily there is'nt a clear cut subsitute just yet.
    Time to stockpile![​IMG]
  8. SwedeSteve

    SwedeSteve Freedom Zealot Forum Contributor

    Well, you gotta admit that the idea of Bald Eagles consuming wheel weights is pretty alarming !!
  9. larmus

    larmus G&G Enthusiast

    :haha: right next to the spotted owl eattin fishin sinkers
  10. After awhile they would declare steel is accumulating in the environment and ban that. Just another attempt to ban guns in small increments, and I'm glad their scheme failed.
    Jack Wagons like this are a danger to our Republic for which it once stood we can't afford this stuff.
    I've never caught a fish with a lead sinker or wheel weight in it, what a pant load of mis-information.
  11. Yea, I saw the good news about it being rejected.

    but. now we have another threat. And it appears to be coming from the loser Senator from my state of Illinois, Dick Durbin. It appears he's behind the sneaking in of a high capacity magazine ban in the FAA bill.

    So, call your Senators and tell them to vote NO to any proposed high cap magazine ban. And if he, she or they don't vote no, the same people that voted them into office will vote them right back out.
  12. Dick Durbin! that's a porn star name!:silly:they can't possible take him seriously!:thumbsdown:
  13. bobvonb

    bobvonb G&G Evangelist

    while not commenting on the motives behind this California ban, allow me to point out that it is the local Fish and Game and not the EPA behind this, that it only applies while hunting big game and non-game small animals, and only the the range of the California condor. you can still target shoot and plink with lead. In point of fact the level of lead in Condor blood has gone down and should help with their recovery as a species. Note that it is 'so called' hunters that shot these birds in the first place, needlessly in my opinion, that brought us to this. I doubt condor tastes very good and certainly would not make a very attractive trophy.

    Now, playing devils advocate: originally bullets were 100% lead and it is a more recent innovation to have them copper clad. people were use to lead bullets so the step to copper clad was easy to conceive. There was no incentive to create non-lead bullets. now there is. many manufacturers sell non-lead bullets that perform quite well. give them a few more years and we may all wonder why we ever used lead bullets at all. there are some good reasons for non-lead bullets, besides not poisoning the environment. they retain more of their weight for one, no lead to fly off. I have no real reason to think lead is better than non-lead, so if adequate non-lead bullets were to be offered at the same price, why not???