You know the new mags have tight springs and you CAN get 14 in it is Just hard to do so once you use them some and clean them they break in and they get essayer to load. Also a mag loader helps a lot just like the XDM .45 without the mag loader they give you with the kit you would not be able to get more than 13 rnds in the 15 rnd mag or like lading a 30rnd Geese gun mag where you can't get more than 10 in with out a mag loader to assist you..