Makarov questions

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by wigmaster0, May 27, 2008.

  1. wigmaster0

    wigmaster0 G&G Newbie

    I keep hearing about converting from 9.18 to 380 acp. Sounds like a great idea to me but I have one little problem. Where do I find the parts? I keep seeing conversion kits for 22 and 32 but none for the 380. Also I heard there is a way to modify the current 8 round 9.18 to 10 rounds. Again a great idea! But how is it done? Any help would be great!!!!

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  2. Mooseman684

    Mooseman684 G&G Newbie

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    The only conversion is Replacing the Barrel to 380...Difficult, but do-able!
    As far as mor capacity, you would have to modify/ cut the follower in the magazine down and remove the finger lever that aids in loading!
    Numrich(E-gun parts) has barrels for the Makarov.
    Rich
     

  3. Muddog

    Muddog G&G Newbie

    I'm curious as to why you want to go to .380. I've been wrong plenty of times, but isn't 9x18 cheaper and more powerful?
     
  4. Cyrano

    Cyrano Resident Curmudgeon Forum Contributor

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    Yes, Muddog, 9x18 Makarov is actually a touch more powerful than .380 ACP. The difference in delivered energy has been described as a factory .380 ACP plus the power of a .22 LR round.

    Cost-wise, if you buy in bulk 9x18 Mak costs less than .380 ACP (not counting shipping). Examples as of 5/28/08:

    J&G Sales has 91 grain .380 ACP in lots of 1000 for $219, or 22 cents a round. They are selling 90 grain 9x18 Makarov ammo for $180 per 1000 rounds, or 18 cents a round. That's a difference of $40 per thousand.

    Ammoman.com has 95 grain .380 ACP at $199 per thousand, or 20 cents per round. 9x18 Makarov (bullet weight & composition not specified but assume 94 grain FMJ) is selling for $189 per thousand, or 19 cents per round. That's a more equitable than J&G, but it's still a difference of $10 per thousand.

    On Gunbroker.com, 95 grain FMJ .380 ACP American Eagle is selling for $275 per thousand, or 27 1/2 cents per round. The lowest price for 1000 rounds of 9x18 Brown Bear there is $169 per thousand, or 17 cents per round. You can buy a lot more 9x18 Makarov for the $106 dollar difference here.

    I think you see my point. Yes, you can usually find some kind of .380 ACP in your local gun shop. No, they probably won't have a lot of (if any) 9x18 Makarov ammo, it's not as common as the online advertisers would have you believe. But you can easily buy it online, and I have yet to see .380 advertised for less than 9mm Mak.

    Regarding making a Makarov shoot .380 ACP: I've heard that changing a Makarov pistol from 9mm Mak to .380 ACP is possible, Moose. What I've never quite understood is what has to be done to the magazines to make a magazine intended for 9x18 Makarov reliably feed 9x17 (.380 ACP/9mm Kurz) ammunition. The .380 ACP case is a millimeter shorter than Makarov ammo. Wouldn't you have to do something to the magazine to get it to feed properly? And if so, what and how?
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2008
  5. Mooseman684

    Mooseman684 G&G Newbie

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    You dont have to do a thing to the Magazine...It feeds the .380 rounds just as Good as it does the 9 X 18 rounds...1 millimeter is Nothing to worry about.
    I have both caliber guns...and spare barrels to convert them either way !
    8 rounds is enough...
    Rich