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The Winchester model 94 in 30-30 I bought last week was missing the rear sight elevation (or whatever it's called). I'm referring to the step up device which increases/decreases elevation. Got any suggestions on where to buy the part?

The gun's S.N. is 40960XX and if I've read NRAJOE's Winchester sticky correct it was manufactured in 1974.

Additionally, I'm faced with removing more rust than anyone should have allowed to get on the surface of the barrel, and am looking for suggestions for rust removal. Hate to use steel wool because...but the metal is going to have to be re-blued, I'm sure.

Thanks in advance. :right:
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I looked on the parts info sites I have w/no luck. If no one comesup with anything and you have a day or three, I'm sure I can find the sight part at the local gun store.

Try a stiff tooth brush and CLP combined with elbow grease on the rust. May not work all the way but won't hurt it either.
 

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I use 000 Steel wool and motor oil. The oil keeps from scrubing the blueing off.

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Thanks Jerry. I've got nothing but time. :nod: The toothbrush and CLP is a good idea. Anything that will prevent damaging the barrel and the blueing I'm willing to do.

Now I'm considering putting a 3X scope on it for deer hunting. What's your opinion on that idea?
 

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Dana...thanks for your suggestion, too. May do that this evening as a hot summer project. :nod:
 

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Checked out the site you suggested. That's got to be the part.

I've been thinking about this. If the previous owner(s) had put a scope on it would they have had to taken this rear site ramp off in order to fit a scope in place?

Thanks again.
 

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Now I'm considering putting a 3X scope on it for deer hunting. What's your opinion on that idea?
I'm not sure about the rear sight gettin gin the way of a scope.

I would prefer a lever gun w/ irons if I had one. I used my FIL's 94 one season in AZ for muley's. I left it irons and stuck to shots at under 100yds. Never had the chance though.

If your close up and personal 50~75 yards use the 94 with irons.

For GP I'd stay with your 700BDL 30-06 that your loving wife got you :cool:
 

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Jerry...you're probably right about that. And...it seems to destroy the looks of the Model 94 with a scope on top. Also, where I deer hunt I'll usually be within 100 yds +/- a few yards. Now if I get that rear ramp installed I should be in fine shape.
 

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Hey...I'm taking my new Ruger .357 Mag Stainless Safety Six as a back up gun. :target: :D

Now back to the Winchester Model 94. I just finished trying to remove the rust described above. I used oil and 4-000 steel wool till most of the rust came off. Some of the blueing came off, too, so I'll continue working down the rust spots and eventually blue it again.

Had one problem, still unfinished, to re-install the screw in the forestock ring clamp. Man, I worked about 30 minutes trying to get that #6 x 1 1/2" screw threaded into the opposite side and finally had to put it down and walk off. I was afraid if I kept working with it I would ruin the threads. Obviously, something's not aligned exactly right or it would slip on in and screw properly. I'm about ready to take it to a gunsmith rather than mess up the screw trying to force it into the threaded metal collar. Got any suggestions?
 

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Thanks Allen. That's exactly what I'm missing. :right:

$5+ for the part
$3+ for shpg and handling
$2+ for insurance

No choice but to pay the fees and wait for it. It's marked as "out of stock" but I'll wait for it.

Thanks again.
 

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good deal, thanks Allen. & Lefty. I knew there had to be a good source out there somewhere. Just couldn't place it. Good luck with your 30-30 Ox :right:
 

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It's gonna be a fun gun to shoot, for sure, and with the rear sight ramp in place it might even be a little more accurate. :D :target:
 

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As follow up information that might be useful to others looking for new parts for older guns, I'll post how I finally located the rear sight elevator ramp for my recently bought Winchester Model 94 in 30-30 with a serial number which dated it to 1974.

Allen T suggested Midwest Arms. I found their link, ordered the part and they wrote back that it would be back ordered. After three weeks they sent a follow up letter saying the part was unavailable.

Then Allen T first suggested contacting Winchester.Com directly. Did that and found that parts for Winn Model 94's made pre 1964 and up till the mid 1970's were all bought out from Winchester by Jack First, Inc., located in South Dakota. Called their 800 number and yessiree...they had the part. Cost me about $6.00 for the part plus $7.00 for shpg. so I bought two in case this one got lost, too. It arrived two days later and I've installed it. Looks like the original.

Found that the elevator ramp spring clip was too loose so I was able to bend the spring just enough to tighten down on the new ramp. It works perfect now. :nod:

I would recommend Jack First.Com for anyone looking for hard to find older gun parts. They definitely came through for me. :right:Anyone interested in contacting Jack First, Inc. can find their 800 phone number on their web site.
 

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Allen...the blueing is still on hold because too many other things have had priority. However, it'll get done sooner or later. Thanks again for your help in getting the rear sight elevator ramp...plus a great source for my future Winchester Model 94 30-30 rifle needs.

I've been preoccupied with that new lathe project which has taken longer than I expected...but I'm not complaining because I've been having a great time refurbushing that old 1950's piece of equipment. It now looks like new and probably works about as well as it did originally, too. I've painted the 10" Dia x 28" center to center lathe Powr Kraft with Gloss Gray and the base Rustoleum silver. So far I've made several bowls and spindles of various shapes out of walnut and cedar.
 
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