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Need opion on Purchase of garand!!

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Guy at my work will sell his Garand for a resonable price(under $900) He is going to let me borrow it this weekend to shoot and see if I like it. From what he told me its all #'s matching Springfield Armory W/ a 5 digit serial number , metal and barrel is good and a new stock was put on ( I think a dark wood color, does that sound right?) He shoots it every once in a while and is very acurate. IF I post the serial # can I find out more history of the rifle. Any opion on this matter is greatly appreciated. I'll post more info when I see the rifle.

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Sorry forgot to mention he also will throw in the GI sling ,the original bayonet,8 clips and 500 rds of 30-06
Im having a very hard time believing he is selling an all correct # 5 digit for that money. I can almost bet the farm it will not have a Type 1 Flush nut sight, early uncut oprod and if under 50,000 it is a Gas Trap which needs the early Keystone springs and comp spring or single spring later on {$3,000}and the Gas Trap Gas Cylinder {$6,500} and Barrel {$10,000 if you can find one}. There are many many more 5 digit rare parts I can bet arent on it but if they are you better not mis out on this one. I would go armed with Scott Duff's book to see what you are getting into. I would say though a 5 digit with any parts that shoots real good is worth this price and tons more if correct.
Good luck {I'm pulling for it to be correct}and if you buy it let us know more of what is on it. Thanks,,Rick B
I would cross reference the serial numbers with Duff's book also.
If worst to worst, see if you can borow it for a few days (or at least a couple of days -- write down the drawing numbers on the various parts and post them here or another forum. I think along with Stock Doc, on this one. I smell a rat unless you're getting an incredible deal. The guy you're buying it from may not know what a "matching" rifle really is.

I still remember buying a "matching" M1 carbine that was billed as non-import. It was non-matching and WAS an import!
Don't tell em youre checking it out on the GnG sight.
By the way, what is a good price for an SA Garnad, serial # under 70,000 that was arsenal refinished with armores initials dated bout 1964? Have a standing offer of $550. TE of 2.5

Anthoney check and see !
I suppose to get the gun tomorrow to use this weekend. I have a friend that owns a gun store here in St. louis and he is going to check it out for me. I'll post all the info I find out for your guys opinion. I might be wrong on all #'s matching. What I was trying to say is that it is 5 digit # and all the parts are suppose to be Springfield Armory, might not match # wise. Not a parts gun like some garands
Anthony - Parts guns are fine, and probably 90% of the M1 Garands are parts guns, because most of them went through a rebuild where parts got mixed. Even when the rifles are refitted with all the correct parts from Winchester or Springfield, they are still parts rifles. According to Scott Duff in his Red bound M1 Garand publication, "There never was an ALL Winchester Winchester." That is one of the beauties of the M1 Garand, you can mix the parts and still have a legitimate M1 Garand.

If that M1 Garand is original it fits into a special category, and I doubt very much if it currently is, as the Stock Doc said, a Gas Trap, which the Serial number indicates it was originally. A Gas Trap has a fairly large bright Stainless Steel forging at the muzzle that makes it look a lot different than almost every M1 Garand you will ever see. Even Repro Gas Traps (just the Gas Trap) cost a lot more than $900.00.

$900.00 is a lot of money, when you can join a CMP rifle club and buy an M1 Garand (Parts Gun) for $500.00, which will possibly shoot as well if not better than the M1 Garand you are talking about. Now if the guy is selling it for $700.00 with the sling, a bayonet (which I doubt is the "Original" as they were issued separately from the rifle, and never had the rifle serial number on them), the clips, and 500 rounds of .30-06, it might be an OK deal (based upon the cost of the ammo).

The ammo you should shoot in it should not be .30-06 hunting ammo, as that could cause damage to the rifle. It was designed to shoot M2 Ball 147/150 grain bullets, and while 165, 168, and 173 grain bullets work best for competition, you should NEVER use more than 180 grain bullets.

The powder burn rate for most hunting ammo is usually not correct for the M1 Garand. While it works well in a bolt action rifle, most semiauto rifles have timing characteristics for the rifle that are dependent on the burn rate of the powder, to be correct. If you load your own, then use 41 grains of IMR 4895 behind a 168 grain Sierra Match King bullet, and the rifle will shoot well. After you are familiar with the rifle, and get to know others who enjoy shooting the M1 Garand, then you may want to adjust the powder load a little, but don't for now.
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