[MosinRuger]

yeah idk, 9mm is pretty much the sweet spot. i mean, sure + 2 rounds would be nice, but i dont think this will really catch on.

its very similar to what federal did with the .327 fed mag. its like a .357 but alittle smaller diameter, supposedly allows a small revolver or more capacity, and also less recoil than .357.

but.. i dont think that its better enough to overcome the market density of the common calibers out there.

 

[MosinRuger]

Yeah just heard about this myself. Gotta wonder about this stuff. Sometimes ask myself why do we need it? Guess makers feel "money to be made"

while i kinda agree, its also good to see a company trying to innovate and push the industry/ rtechnology farther down the road.

 

[MosinRuger]

I forgot to mention in my last post that while this caliber might not end up being very popular here in the US, it may see a lot more sucess elsewhere in the world. While the United State's might have the most open gun laws, we are by far not the only country in the world where citizens can own and carry firearms for self protection... even if it is a lot more restrictive.

In many of those countries (especially some in South/Central America and Europe) they limit the caliber size of what the average (non military/police) citizen can privately own.

In many countries "military calibers" are banned from private use/possession. In some countries that's 9mm luger that is banned or like in Mexico anything above a case diameter of .38 special is restricted.

Hence why both .380ACP and .38 Super are a lot more common elsewhere. This new .30SC might just be the ticket for all those people looking to pack the biggest defensive caliber possible while still staying within their countries gun laws.

good point about military cartridges not being allowed in many other countries.

I would definitely choose the .30 super carry over a .380acp if presented with those options.

 

[MosinRuger]

For me personally I see no use for such a cartridge. Now on the other hand I have been looking for a cartridge for my wife to comfortably shoot and carry. She is a petite statured woman and weighs all of a 100lbs. I have bought her several different guns over the years and yet she hasn't really liked any of them. The recoil on the few 380's she has shot wasn't exactly overwhelming but yet it was enough that she didn't care for it. The LCP she had was the first gen and she hated the double action trigger and the recoil was a bit much. She hasn't shot the newer one since we've been very busy these past few months. The ones she likes to shoot are way to large and not practical for carry in any way for her other than in her purse.
Maybe this cartridge will be a good fit for her? I of course will not buy one until I can find a place that has one for their indoor range gun that we can rent. I've bought enough guns for her that she doesn't want to shoot.

I'd bet the recoil on this will be between the 380 and 9mm, so not likely any better than the 380.

sounds like she might be a good candidate for a .22 carry gun. perhaps a .22mag revolver?

i wish the industry would come out with a few more options in sub compact .22lr semi auto pistols.

 

[MosinRuger]

What about the 5.7? Doesn't someone make a 22 mag pistol with a 33 round magazine
What happened to the TCM 22...other than ammo availability

i suppose 5.7 would be an option, but i've never thought 5.7 was a very practical round for a civilian. too expensive, and it was designed to penetrate armor, which civvies dont really need.

tcm .22 was a neat idea, but not much more than that IMO, it wasnt adopted in large enough numbers to become commonly available.

keltec makes the 33 round .22 mag pistol, problem is its a keltec( yes i know some people wont like that but i dont care). its also huge and no where close to carry gun size.

 

[MosinRuger]

this is a pretty informative video.

Honestly i like the sound of this new round, it makes sense. more capacity and very close performance to .9mm. If only the ammo would become affordable.

 

[MosinRuger]

I guess the real question is, 'does this new caliber do anything new or is it just change for the sake of change, aka just for $$$$' ???? If it's not broke don't fix it!!!

the answer is yes, it does do something new. it gives you essentially 9mm performance with more capacity.
now my question is, is it new/ different enough to make a difference? likely not.

 

[MosinRuger]

I just don't feel that I'm going to need more than 15.

And thats perfectly fine, but maybe someone else out there does want 12 in stead of 10. not everyone is able to conceal a 15 round carry gun.

 

[MosinRuger]

I think the 7.62x25 Tokarev is better than that. If you're going to run a hot 30 caliber, it might as well be really hot!

while im a fan of the tokarev round, the benefit behind the .30 super carry is that it is a slimmer case, allowing higher magazine capacity, at least thats the selling point.