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That's interesting. I might look into that as I often just shove my Glock in the small of my back to run and errand or something. But I'd want the self-installation kit so that if I didn't like it I would know how to get rid of it.
Usually I wear and IWB holster though for safety purposes.....
Thanks Jesse....
Usually I wear and IWB holster though for safety purposes.....
Thanks Jesse....
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Thanks Jesse, but my safety is in my finger, my #1 rule is keep the finger off the triger until you're ready to shoot!
I would like to know if this device alters in any way the gun or if it is a replacement part like lazermax or similar devices, I don't modify my gun in any way that can't be reversed without damage to the original firearm.
No gunsmithing in my glock that can't be done by me!!!!
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Thanks Jesse, but my safety is in my finger, my #1 rule is keep the finger off the triger until you're ready to shoot!
I would like to know if this device alters in any way the gun or if it is a replacement part like lazermax or similar devices, I don't modify my gun in any way that can't be reversed without damage to the original firearm.
No gunsmithing in my glock that can't be done by me!!!!
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Sure it looks like a cut in the frame, that's is major surgery and can't be reversed so in my book it's out of the question!!!!
No way it's going into my gun and don't need it!!!!
Cutting the frame is like raping the gun, like taking away it's honor for ever!!!
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Sure it looks like a cut in the frame, that's is major surgery and can't be reversed so in my book it's out of the question!!!!
No way it's going into my gun and don't need it!!!!
Cutting the frame is like raping the gun, like taking away it's honor for ever!!!
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Gotta love the with adequate training line in the advert.
I' m seriously into the martial arts and "with adequate training" killing becomes a reflex. That's why my 13 year old daughter can commit a felony without really meaning it. It's one of my great pleasures in life to teach her PPCT in such a manner that she can inflict serious pain(on a boy like I was) without leaving any marks showing...The Rule is: the first time you say NO then feel free to dislocate something.,,,
Is that Hypocritical?
Who cares...She's safe and I can sleep well...
I' m seriously into the martial arts and "with adequate training" killing becomes a reflex. That's why my 13 year old daughter can commit a felony without really meaning it. It's one of my great pleasures in life to teach her PPCT in such a manner that she can inflict serious pain(on a boy like I was) without leaving any marks showing...The Rule is: the first time you say NO then feel free to dislocate something.,,,
Is that Hypocritical?
Who cares...She's safe and I can sleep well...
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For my preferences, a manual safety is a must, and hi-cap mag availability for Glock 40s, as well as mag interchangeability with Kel-Tec carbines. I too would want to know if it would hold up.
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This is bad it opens a pandora's box on litagation
I can see a lawer useing the argument
"Did you use a safe Glock"
And then "Why not?"
Glocks dont need safety's
Revolvers dont need safetys
Most firearms dont need as many safety's as they have
[like the colt 1911 series 80 fireing pin blocking plunger]
So much of this is just emotional based hand wringing
The accidental discharges with Glocks are caused by
the person leaving their finger in the trigger guard
when holstering or "something" pulling the trigger.
It is allways a negligent based event
It is absolutley IMPOSSIBLE for a Glock safe action pistol to fire
With out the trigger being depressed to the rear position.
No way No how It is a mecanical IMPOSSIBILITY.
So, what we are dealing with?
So many Police are able to manufacture "facts"
Like the "fact" that Glock's discharge inadvertantly when dropped or smacked WRONG
It is an Emotionaly based "situation" where nobody wants to admit that officer so and so was a negligent gun handler.
People have so much Emotional Baggage about firearms
The whole atitude of "I know what I am doing, I couldnt have done the wrong thing "
Makeing a mistake with a gun resulting in a accidental discharge
Is not a desireable situation yet being able to alter reality
And getting Glock to make changes to their design when the fault of ANY accidental discharge should be laid squarely at the feet of the officer or shooter
Is hippocritical to say the least.
If you gotta have a Pistol with a safety on it then get one
Dont make the rest of us have to have one too.
An Add on safety to a Glock is a wrong thing to do
It may become mandatory for All Glocks to have then and then a great handgun design will fade in to history.
Well, lets hope not.
I can see a lawer useing the argument
"Did you use a safe Glock"
And then "Why not?"
Glocks dont need safety's
Revolvers dont need safetys
Most firearms dont need as many safety's as they have
[like the colt 1911 series 80 fireing pin blocking plunger]
So much of this is just emotional based hand wringing
The accidental discharges with Glocks are caused by
the person leaving their finger in the trigger guard
when holstering or "something" pulling the trigger.
It is allways a negligent based event
It is absolutley IMPOSSIBLE for a Glock safe action pistol to fire
With out the trigger being depressed to the rear position.
No way No how It is a mecanical IMPOSSIBILITY.
So, what we are dealing with?
So many Police are able to manufacture "facts"
Like the "fact" that Glock's discharge inadvertantly when dropped or smacked WRONG
It is an Emotionaly based "situation" where nobody wants to admit that officer so and so was a negligent gun handler.
People have so much Emotional Baggage about firearms
The whole atitude of "I know what I am doing, I couldnt have done the wrong thing "
Makeing a mistake with a gun resulting in a accidental discharge
Is not a desireable situation yet being able to alter reality
And getting Glock to make changes to their design when the fault of ANY accidental discharge should be laid squarely at the feet of the officer or shooter
Is hippocritical to say the least.
If you gotta have a Pistol with a safety on it then get one
Dont make the rest of us have to have one too.
An Add on safety to a Glock is a wrong thing to do
It may become mandatory for All Glocks to have then and then a great handgun design will fade in to history.
Well, lets hope not.
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The Glock is a safe firearm. The way it's designed, it's idiot-proof (not attorney-proof, however), and simple to operate under stress. Add a manual safety, and that is something else that could go worng at a bad time.
I don't intend to add one of these safeties on my 22, as I am comfortable with it as is.
Jesse, thanks for posting this. Appreciate the link, too. I read about this last month in an advertisement in a gun magazine and wondered what others would think. I talked with a few of the instructors last night about it and they are in agreement that it may be a waste of time.
Dennis, just remember that anything mechanical can fail, no matter what the design is.
If you need a manual safety, buy another semi-auto with one. Otherwise, you're asking for a headache by modifying a Glock.
I don't intend to add one of these safeties on my 22, as I am comfortable with it as is.
Jesse, thanks for posting this. Appreciate the link, too. I read about this last month in an advertisement in a gun magazine and wondered what others would think. I talked with a few of the instructors last night about it and they are in agreement that it may be a waste of time.
Dennis, just remember that anything mechanical can fail, no matter what the design is.
If you need a manual safety, buy another semi-auto with one. Otherwise, you're asking for a headache by modifying a Glock.
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As for my experience, yes I've fired revolvers, from Colt 357 to Ruger and Smith 44 magnums, double and single action. No I have not fired a Glock, but I have held them and I believe dry fired.
No offense taken, it's definitely a valid question from one who has experience to one who has much much less and more ideas than he knows what to do with.
And I'm not a proponent of mandatory safeties. It's just something I want, and having one on a Glock makes it a candidate while I would otherwise rule it out.
No offense taken, it's definitely a valid question from one who has experience to one who has much much less and more ideas than he knows what to do with.
And I'm not a proponent of mandatory safeties. It's just something I want, and having one on a Glock makes it a candidate while I would otherwise rule it out.
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I got a really dumb question and please don't make fun of me. Glock's safety is in the middle of the trigger. DAH what good does that do.? Me, myself and I don't need a safety. # 1 rule don't leave a round chambered. Unless you are a really slow person to react. If there are not other family members who pose a problem then by all means leave one in the pipe.
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That's my opinion as well, hence my not buying one. Price is also a drawback, compared to the low end 1911s.
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Glock has 3 safeties:
1) Trigger safety (you all can see it in the midle of the trigger)
2) Drop safety(it is in the trigger mechanism housing)
3) Firing pin safety, better known as safety plunger (blocks the firing pin)
These 3 safety features is what is known as glock safe action, the only way a glock can fire is by pulling the trigger period, you can hammer with it, drop it, even be involved in a car accident and the inertia wouldn't fire it!
I'll take a picture of my glock cleaning mat in which is clearly explained with figures how the system works, these safeties engage secuentially during the travel of the trigger pull.
When I tell someone about the 3 safeties, they can't seem to understand how there is no lever to activate these safeties.
Even after showing the diagrams and giving the explanation they don't understand!
I've to admit that it took me a lot of analizing the diagrams and reading again and again the explanation before I fully understood how this works, but after understanding the design, I was amazed on it's simplicity and why no one thought about it before!
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Glock has 3 safeties:
1) Trigger safety (you all can see it in the midle of the trigger)
2) Drop safety(it is in the trigger mechanism housing)
3) Firing pin safety, better known as safety plunger (blocks the firing pin)
These 3 safety features is what is known as glock safe action, the only way a glock can fire is by pulling the trigger period, you can hammer with it, drop it, even be involved in a car accident and the inertia wouldn't fire it!
I'll take a picture of my glock cleaning mat in which is clearly explained with figures how the system works, these safeties engage secuentially during the travel of the trigger pull.
When I tell someone about the 3 safeties, they can't seem to understand how there is no lever to activate these safeties.
Even after showing the diagrams and giving the explanation they don't understand!
I've to admit that it took me a lot of analizing the diagrams and reading again and again the explanation before I fully understood how this works, but after understanding the design, I was amazed on it's simplicity and why no one thought about it before!
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