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So this is the first mosin nagant i have ever bought (first gun actually) and its a m38 carbine with a laminated m44 stock for 150 with shipping and transfer fee

i bought it from centerfire systems and in my opinion it looks great!
oh and it is arsenal refinished, has a counter bored muzzle, forced matching numbers, and is an 1941 izzy.

but i do have some questiosn about it.

1.) does it look like it has cosmoline in the stock? or can you even tell? when i got it it had no cosmo on it i just did a quick clean and i boiled the bolt.

2.) anything i should do before i go out and shoot it? besides a headspace check

3.) was it a good deal?

4.) and what does GKO stand for? or any of the other markings?

thanks!
 

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A real beauty! If you ever decide to sell that stock, let me know!
 

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Congrats on the M38! Yes, that is a fair price. Locally the non laminated ones sell for that much and are not in as good of shape as the one I got from Centerfire.

I was impressed with the M38 I got from them as well. M38 laminated stock. When I ordered mine they still had some with the M38 stock. (HA, Marion! I caught myself before I said "correct stock"!)

I was impressed with how clean the rifle was. Bolt had a lot of cosmo in it but it cleaned up nicely. Bore was surprisingly strong. Still have not had a chance to shoot it darn it. Had to do some chores today or I would have shot it today.
 

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thanks!
and ya i took the bolt apart and boiled it and cleaned it with hoppes and then oiled it.

i like it alot but i hate the darn barrel bands....
taking them off has already scratched up the stock!!
and that was only once!

is there like a trick to it?
i put some oil on the stock and they moved easier but still it was annoying....

oh and i am confused about the bore...
how do i know its good?
i mean it looks clean but its not like shiny or anything.
 

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thanks!
and ya i took the bolt apart and boiled it and cleaned it with hoppes and then oiled it.

i like it alot but i hate the darn barrel bands....
taking them off has already scratched up the stock!!
and that was only once!

is there like a trick to it?
i put some oil on the stock and they moved easier but still it was annoying....

oh and i am confused about the bore...
how do i know its good?
i mean it looks clean but its not like shiny or anything.
mosins rarely have a mirror bore but if it looks clean and nothing on a patch and the lands are sharp go for it
 

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That is a nice looking M38. $150 is not too bad.

I don't mean to question your methods, but I have never found it necessary to boil a bolt. Pouring boiling water down the receiver to heat and loosen 50 year old cosmolene in the breech... yes.

I just disassemble the bolt and clean it with mineral spirits, why boil it? I have done 10 MN bolts and none required boiling (except the two I used for soup :09:).

As for the bore... what Marion and Tex said. If you see decent rifling it's probably OK. If it's shiny that's a bonus.

Welcome to the addiction. It only gets better from here.
 

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oh i just boiled it cause thats what i read on the internet.
from what i understand its the standard way to clean the bolt.

but i could be wrong.
haha i mean i am basing all my knowledge off what i have read on the internet
(not a very good source)
and the rifling looks great!!
its reallllly easy to see.

so thats good im assuming?
 

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Sounds like someone online was prepping their MN for surgery... I suppose that boiling would make sure that any cosmolene in the firing pin tube would be loosened and removed... so couldn't hurt.

Once cleaned... I usually lube the firing pin spring and bushing with gun grease, and spray a little Remoil or Break Free on the assembled bolt.

Rifling makes the bullet go round, so the sharper the better.

The MN is about as simple as a military rifle gets.

Sounds like you have a winner. What ammo are you planning to run through that rifling?
 

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looks good!
i hate that shellac too. sure wish they used something that would stick to wood!
don't worry bout the bore. unless you have a bore scope, looking into it wont tell you much. just get it as clean as you can and go shoot then clean some more. i was really surprised how much copper was in mine. bet those ruskies wish they the copper fouling cleaners we have today!
 

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Wow thanks Marion. I went to that site and learned my M91 is a Chatellerault M91.
Looks just like this.
I learn so much from you smart a.... I mean guys. Smart guys.
 

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er i ordered 300 milsurp rounds from somewhere on the internet...
i post some pics of em when they get here.

supposed to get here today!
so im excited.

that is if i can figure out how to open the darn can.
haha

found it.

i bought this
Bulgarian 1955 7.62x54r Lead Core Heavy Ball

from wideners reloading supply
Yerr gonna love it. Real butt kicker ammo and dang accurate to boot.

The pull ring on the can works fine if you don't pull too hard and roll the can as you go. No pull ring? Pliers work fine.
 

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Wow thanks Marion. I went to that site and learned my M91 is a Chatellerault M91.
Looks just like this.
I learn so much from you smart a.... I mean guys. Smart guys.
Yeah capt my wife informed me a long time ago that smart was only half a word :sad2:
you are a lucky man would love to own one like yours
 

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just got the ammo!
and it looks great!
it really surprised me how heavy that box was though...
but it IS 300 rounds.
and that darn thing was HARD to open!!
i mean DANG!
stupid rusty tin.
oh well its cool though cause its OLD!

anyways.
important stuff below.

oh and they are bulgarian heavy ball (10/55)
 

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just got the ammo!
and it looks great!
it really surprised me how heavy that box was though...
but it IS 300 rounds.
and that darn thing was HARD to open!!
i mean DANG!
stupid rusty tin.
oh well its cool though cause its OLD!

anyways.
important stuff below.

oh and they are bulgarian heavy ball (10/55)
oh well its cool though cause its OLD!
we old guys always knew were were cool hehe:09::burnout:
 

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haha so are you covered in rust and other grimy stuff i dont care to give a name to?

edit:
also, they were dirt cheap!
around $50 for 300 rounds!
it comes out around 17 cents per round!
i got em from wideners ammo supply.
go check it out
 
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