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This is NOT an NRA bashing thread!

What I said was that NO organization is a substitute for the people defending their rights.

Nowhere in that REPLY did I "bash" the NRA.

The people of this country have gotten lazy and gutless. They seem to think that they can pay someone else to take their responsibility for them. That is why we have a criminal gubmint.
Howdy,
I was not saying you Ten Man, personally was bashing the NRA.
The majority of time when a pro NRA thread is started. Folks come out of the woodwork, just to bash and condemn them. As firearm owners, we need to stick to our guns, and have every owner in the fight to defend our rights. both individually and as members of pro gun right groups. When I replied, I was trying to nip the whiny snivelers in the butt, before it started.

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If you not a part of the solution you're a part of the problem. That's what NRA knockers need to hear.

The NRA might be the ONLY stick you've got one day. The SSAA was all we had and while people have called it a toothless tiger it's kept us in there.

People don't always realize that teeth don't always win the fight.

You can run into a bank wearing a mask and get a handful of money.

You can walk in wearing a suit and tie and take it all.
 

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I am a disgruntled MEMBER. I am a member because I do think they do us some good. For a NON- Profit they seem to have a long list of officers and vp's and such. I see a lot of big salaries there and I think they spend our money just about like the federal government, like there is an endless supply. I will continue paying dues as will I continue being disgruntled about it. I am a paying member therefore I do have a right to complain. It is my money they are spending or wasting. I work hard for my money and don't have a say so in being forced to pay taxes. Yet I give by my choice to the NBA just to watch them freely spend and continue asking for more.
 

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Life member and so are several family members.

Like has been said it has been a steady champion and the biggest stick in the room.

BUT

Like any other organization they have a life cycle and sometimes make bad decisions.

At present they need to be pressing for suppressor reform and CC reciprocity--and STOP being on the defensive and caving in.

You don't have to confront every problem with a stick, but it's ALSO the biggest voice to get the truth out. Rather than throw some device under the bus and open the tent for the camel, they need to be on the offensive with the truth. Funny thing is most of America is supporting them; it's a relatively small minority parroting the leftist whines at this point--most folks post Las Vegas were concerned with how do I protect me and my family and NOT going after some device. They get it and understand the parrots of the left.

As such, we need to make clear our extreme displeasure with the cave in and have the leadership understand it won't be tolerated moving forward. Frankly it baffles me, but I do understand how politics works and now they will have to backtrack when faced with the onslaught of REAL gun control legislation evolving from buying into the leftist argument in the first place.

It's easy to criticize and hard to build, but strong leadership takes a coherent position to begin with. And that's what we need moving forward.
 

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My wife and I are both life members. I figure that if the left considers the NRA to be such a dangerous enemy they are doing the right things.

While I don't always agree with everything they do, the NRA is still the most organized and effective group we have.
 

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Quote: "I see a lot of big salaries there and I think they spend our money just about like the federal government, like there is an endless supply. I will continue paying dues as will I continue being disgruntled about it. I am a paying member therefore I do have a right to complain. It is my money they are spending or wasting. I work hard for my money and don't have a say so in being forced to pay taxes."

There are indeed some large salaries. Talented people earn money. If I need an attorney, I am not going to look for some derelict who barely earns enough to keep a shingle hung. Nor do I look for investment advice from a guy wearing a Don Ho shirt. I WANT my investment guy, attorney, CPA, or anyone I hire for their "talent", to drive a big car, live in a big house, and be able to help Me with their talent. I don't want the pilot flying me to London to be a guy 'just getting by'. I have only one voice in the halls of congress and state politics. I want them to be high earners.
 

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The fact that the liberal left, Democrats in Congress, and biased media despise the NRA should tell you something. Like it's working. They have their lobbyist and we have ours. And ours are winning so far. The ratings the NRA gives politicians is worth the price alone.
 

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The fact that the liberal left, Democrats in Congress, and biased media despise the NRA should tell you something. Like it's working. They have their lobbyist and we have ours. And ours are winning so far. The ratings the NRA gives politicians is worth the price alone.

They endorsed Harry Reid!
 

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I disagree. The NRA can organize and focus our efforts. Our forefathers were not on the whole, trained warriors. They followed George Washington, slowly became organized and galvanized to liberty. A group of survivalists living in the deep woods will not be the salvation of liberty!
Gen Washington was not a lone eagle. After all he accidently killed a French Diplomat. The French saved our Nation at York Town. He had strong military support from France and German officers. Washington disbanded his many Rifle Companies before the war ended. That was a costly move. Geo. Washington was the most wealthy man of his time.
 

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I'm a life member. I don't agree with everything they do but I think we are better with them than without them. It's like Pres. Trump he's not the best but he is the best we have right now. I can't walk on water yet so I can't jump out of a leaky boat.
 

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I rejoined after a long absence.
I could name a long list of two faced things they've done in the political side of things but I won't.
I'm a member solely for the purpose of shooting in matches where you have to be a member.
I rejoined early this year.
I'll just show you a tiny example of one of the little one things that piss me off about the bureaucracy of it. Got my hat I think a month ago but didn't pay much attention to it as I wear my usual solid black hat with subdued USA Flag.

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words:
I'll still wear it maybe or trash it already ripped out the tag . You'd think they'd have a clue and not contract a communist country to make the hats!
Signed a disgruntled renewed member.
 
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