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Old Nagant Rifle

Discussion in 'Curios and Relics' started by Rex in OTZ, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ G&G Evangelist

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    this is a nagant rifle I found on the Nouvelle Page.
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    It acts of a military rifle NAGANT system MANNLICHER calibre 8 mm.

    The bolt designed by NAGANT has longitudinal movement and is the essential characteristic of this mechanism.



    The magazine is placed in front of the trigger guard and consists of one limp oblong fixed.

    It can contain five cartridges.

    The loading is done under, the bottom of the magazine swivelling around a hinge located at the front one.

    The weapon must be turned over for the loading which can be done to the unit or the five in once.

    This weapon was patented by NAGANT brothers on October 26, 1887.

    It was presented at the tests of the Belgian army in August 1888.

    Other patents were deposited by NAGNANT in order to mitigate certain imperfections but in fact the MAUSER will be chosen by the military in spite of undeniable qualities of the NAGANT.

    NAGANT also manufactured the bayonet of this rifle.

    Technical details

    Weight 3,895 kg - 4,325 with the sword bayonet.

    Calibre: 8 mm with pad.

    Length of the weapon without bayonet: 1m 220.

    Barrel: 68, 5 cm - 6 stripes of left-hand side to the step of 240.
     

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  2. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ G&G Evangelist

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    Nagant-Remington rifle

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    Double Barrel Nagant-Remington rolling block rifle
    It is of course about a rifle double REMINGTON-NAGANT (1870)

    Patents REMINGTON falling little by little into the public domain, brothers NAGANT repurchased part of those, which they added to the improvements that they had already done themselves to improve system REMINGTON.

    Thus they improved patent REMINGTON by revisiting the extractor which had an annoying tendency to break quickly.

    Extractor NAGANT will be of two types almost unbreakable and which are articulated on the same axis as the front block. A pin the met moving when the first block acting as obturator achieved approximately half of its race.

    Two types of extractors because one was intended for the weapons double and the other with the weapons single barrel!
     

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  3. lunchbox99

    lunchbox99 G&G Evangelist

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    Thanks for the pics. I have never seen anything like that
     
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  4. TheJoker

    TheJoker G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

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    That is a pretty neat old rifle!
     
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  5. rl69

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    Ganny ant going to like this :)
     
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  6. BadHabit

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    Thank you for the post. Fascinating to see the history of some rifle lines..
     
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    mosin warrior G&G Newbie

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    Very interesting post. The Nagant bolt rifle looks like its a straight pull. I wonder how these shot.
     
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  8. gandog56

    gandog56 G&G Evangelist

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    I'll be darned, there is such a thing as a Nagant rifle?

    I'm mortified! What will I do with this pic now?

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ G&G Evangelist

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    Nagant was so much more than a handgun

    Earmy is like a shot gun, scarey, not to be messd with but not all pellets hit the mark, (holes in his pattern) some of what he quotes as gosphul is not always so.
    Like International Harvester (IH) mfg a M1 Garand Rifle and therafter its known mostly for making a Farm equipment, they did they mfg autos, house hold appliances and war material for WWII.
    Uncle Woody fired a IH mfg M2 while in the 1950's era National Guard.

    Firm NAGANT
    Emile (1830 - 1902) and Leon (1833 - 1900) Formed in 1859 the Factory of Weapons Emile and Leon Nagant, Quai of Ourthe, 41 in Liege.

    The meeting with the Remington brothers in 1867, makes it possible to take, under licence, the manufacture of 5000 rifles "Rolling Block" intended for the pontifical Zouaves of the guard of the Vatican. By improving the system of closing they produce shotguns to known guns juxtaposed under the name of "Remington-Nagant".

    They contribute to the adjustment of the turntable of the Dutch revolver Mle 1873 which are manufactured by the Arsenal of Hembrug and the Beaumont firm of Maastricht.

    In 1876, they manufacture a rifle in 11 mm for Greece provided with the Mylonas system.
    In 1877, they create a gun with two juxtaposed guns, system "Rolling block", of caliber 9,4 mm (cartridge carried out by the Bachmann Belgian, known under the name of 9,4 Nagant or 9,4 Belgian). This weapon will remain in equipment in the Belgian gendarmerie until 1901, it is the first Belgian lawful weapon with metal cartridge.

    The revolver model 1878, available in simple and double action, gave rise to a series of weapons which were adopted by various European countries:

    Belgium first of all: models 1878, 1883 and 1878/86 with the calibre 9,4 mm.

    The model 1883 in double action by Norway.

    The model 1887, calibre 7,5 mm by Sweden of them.

    The model 1893, calibre of them 7,5 mm by Norway, Serbia and again Sweden; in calibre 44 (11 mm), by Brazil and Argentina.

    And finally the model 1895 with advancing barrel (without "gas loss"), calibre 7,62 of them, by Russia.

    In 1887, Nagant build a rifle with Mannlicher system into 7,65 and 8 mm, considered to be too complex, it are replaced, in 1888, by a Mauser system.
    The same year, with the aid of Colonel Ivanovich Mosin, Nagant work with the production of a repeating rifle calibre some 7,62, likely to replace the "Berdan", lawful Russian with a blow. Famous rifle "Mosin-Nagant" is accepted in 1891.

    The 2 brothers separate in 1896, Leon creates at once the "Factory of Weapons Leon Nagant" and, with its 2 sons Charles (1863) and Maurice (1866), in 1899, they launch out in the automobile adventure (but that is another history) to died of Leon, in 1900 the name of the firm becomes "Factory of Weapons and Cars Nagant Frères".
     

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  10. Rex in OTZ

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    The little understood Crosley

    Crosley Firsts
    [​IMG]First disc brakes on an American built car.

    [​IMG]Crosley built the first Sport Utility Vehicle in late 1947. Well at least in name. They didn't think 4 wheel drive was needed for a SUV like todays definition seems to include.
    Crosley claimed to have had the first all steel station wagon, starting production in November 1947. Jeep had their all steel wagon out in 1946, based on their truck model. I would bow to Jeep as being first, it depends on definitions I guess.
    Crosley did build more station wagons in 1948 than any other US manufacturer, possibily the world.

    [​IMG] Air Conditioned beds, did really take off.


    [​IMG]The postwar Crosley engine had many firsts. The one that took a few years to catch on was an overhead cam in a low cost car.
    [​IMG]Powel Crosley built the first low cost radios in 1921
    [​IMG]Shelves in refrigerator doors, possibly the most taken for granted Crosley first. Powel Crosley didn't invent it but knew a good idea when it is presented. He bought the idea, and for years competitors had models standing in front of their open doors so you could not see what was missing.


    Crosley Appliances and Electronics
    Crosley Radio
    Crosley Automobile Club Inc.- Home for all Crosley Car Owners
    The Mighty Tin
    The Mighty Tin
    The COBRA (Tin Block) engine is undoubtedly the most unique concept used in any or the Crosley cars and trucks.

    It was during the summer of 1943 that Powel Crosley Jr first heard or an all steel stamped, copper hydrogen brazed engine. Paul Klotsch, chief engineer of Crosley Motors Inc, soon was visiting Lloyd M. Taylor of Taylor Engines Inc, California, the inventor of the engine. The horsepower, fuel consumption and other performance data was so outstanding Crosley took an exclusive license under all patents.

    Before the end of the war the Navy became interested in the lightweight high output of the engine and six engine generator sets were built, which ran at 5000 RPM developing 35HP. Crosley and the Navy performed exhaustive tests including running one engine continuously for 1200 hours.

    The Crosley engine easily won the contract, meeting or exceeding all specifications. The Armed Services used the tin block engine for air drop able self contained generators, generators for PT Boats, amphibs and many other places, that lightweight power plants were needed.


    Crosley the War Years
    Crosley's Secret War Effort - The Proximity Fuze
     

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  11. frenchy

    frenchy G&G Enthusiast Forum Contributor

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    Thank you Rex! This is great stuff, all new to me,
    Dale
     
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  12. tommyt654

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    I knew a guy in Tampa,that had 5 Crosleys, really neat little car for its time and kinda rare I believe nowadays.Thanks for the pics an info
     
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