[MosinRuger]

When our troops are engaged in another far flung war, there will be a natural disaster and the democrats will call in the UN to restore order! I am talking about blue helmets here, not brown shirts.

remember kartina?

 

[Chef Duane]

History is history. You can always make up alternative facts.

Yup. Just what all Nazi apologists say.

 

[reverendg]

That's an interesting and slightly scary thought. I say slightly because the nearest base to me...if you count 3.5 to 4 hours away nearest...is Ft. Bragg and somehow I don't see the Marines obeying that order. As for my town police, they know better. They're well aware they're out gunned by at least 10 to 1, and that's a conservative estimate.

Marines? Thats Army.

 

[blaster]

It’s been quite a few years since the military told Clinton to buzz off on his gun confiscation survey. With all the purging in the military and defund movement of law enforcement, I wonder how many would defy a confiscation order now.

EXACTLY!!!
first, they did the outright purges where they searched Soldier's online posts, looked for certain "right wing" tattoos and any other signs of Patriotism toward the Constitution. now the mop up purge is the firing of anyone who refuses the vax. sadly, I'm afraid that our new woke military will blindly follow any order Der Furer gives.

 

[ncnascarlady]

Marines? Thats Army.

My bad. I was posting before caffeine...

 

[Huey Rider]

 

[blue fox]

reading for context:

On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars

Say the words "gun registration" to many pro-gun Americans and you are likely to hear that one of the first things that Hitler did when he seized power was to impose strict gun registration requirements that enabled him to identify gun owners and then to confiscate all guns, effectively...

scholarship.law.columbia.edu

Say the words "gun registration" to many pro-gun Americans and you are likely to hear that one of the first things that Hitler did when he seized power was to impose strict gun registration requirements that enabled him to identify gun owners and then to confiscate all guns, effectively disarming his opponents and paving the way for the Holocaust. One of the more curious twists in the historical debate, though, is that the most vocal opponent of this argument is also pro-gun. It is the National Alliance, a white supremacist organization. According to them, "German Firearms legislation under Hitler, far from banning private ownership, actually facilitated the keeping and bearing of arms by German citizens by eliminating or ameliorating restrictive laws which had been enacted by the government preceding his." So which pro-gunner should we believe?
Following Germany's defeat in World War I, the Weimar Republic passed very strict gun control laws in an attempt both to stabilize the country and to comply with the Versailles Treaty of 1919 – laws that in fact required the surrender of all guns to the government. These laws remained in effect until 1928, when the German parliament relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm-licensing scheme. These strict licensing regulations foreshadowed Hitler's rise to power.
If you read the 1938 Nazi gun laws closely and compare them to earlier 1928 Weimar gun legislation – as a straightforward exercise of statutory interpretation – several conclusions become clear. First, with regard to possession and carrying of firearms, the Nazi regime relaxed the gun laws that were in place in Germany at the time the Nazis seized power. Second, the Nazi gun laws of 1938 specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. Third, approximately eight months after enacting the 1938 Nazi gun laws, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jewish persons from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms.
The difficult question is how to characterize the Nazi treatment of the Jewish population for purposes of evaluating Hitler's position on gun control. Truth is, the question itself is absurd. The Nazis sought to disarm and kill the Jewish population. Their treatment of Jews is, in this sense, orthogonal to their gun-control views. Nevertheless, if forced to take a position, it seems that the Nazis aspired to a certain relaxation of gun registration laws for the "law-abiding German citizen" – for those who were not, in their minds, "enemies of the National Socialist state," in other words, Jews, Communists, etc.
Here, then, is the best tentative and bizarre conclusion: Some of the pro-gunners are probably right, the Nazi-gun-registration argument is probably wrong. What is clear, though, is that the history of Weimar and Nazi gun laws has not received enough critical attention by historians. What we really need now is more historical research and reliable scholarship

Neo strikes again. well done Sir.

 

[Rambo]

remember kartina?

No UN troops were dispatched to New Orleans after Katrina.

 

[Huey Rider]

But the NOPD, American citizens, did!! You’ve missed the point again!!!

 

[MosinRuger]

No UN troops were dispatched to New Orleans after Katrina.

thats not the point.

point is they used a natural disaster to justify confiscation. doesnt matter what name they carried or what color helmets they have.

 

[Get Out]

In America? When?

After Hurricane Katrina, in the City of New Orleans 2005.

 

[MosinRuger]

JUst look at the way Australia did it. Theirs was so easy I would be AMAZED if the Biden administration didn't copy it word for word, act for act.

apples and oranges. america has along and deep history of individual gun ownership, its also you know, guaranteed by our constitution. Australia has neither of those things going for it.

it wont work the same way here.

Not that they wont try...

 

[Rambo]

But the NOPD, American citizens, did!! You’ve missed the point again!!!

You cannot keep the story straight. First it was the Feds thru Biden. Now it’s a local police agency during a natural disaster from almost twenty years ago. Stay focused. The Feds have neither the manpower nor the willingness to confiscate the firearms of every American citizen. End of story.
Let the paranoia continue!😅

 

[MosinRuger]

You cannot keep the story straight. First it was the Feds thru Biden. Now it’s a local police agency during a natural disaster from almost twenty years ago. Stay focused. The Feds have neither the manpower nor the willingness to confiscate the firearms of every American citizen. End of story.
Let the paranoia continue!😅

how do you know the intent of the federal govt and the thousands of bureaucrats that operate it?

it doesn't take them sending a "Fed" employee to every door. they can coerce others to do their dirty work for them.. as we saw in NOLA.. the local pd didnt push back on the order did they? regardless of where it came from... so we cant trust the feds to NOT try to take our guns, and we cant trust the local PD to NOT do it for them!

there is a reason that we dont want the feds to have a gun registry. THEY CANT BE TRUSTED NOT TO USE IT

keep your head in the sand!

 

[Chef Duane]

You cannot keep the story straight. First it was the Feds thru Biden. Now it’s a local police agency during a natural disaster from almost twenty years ago. Stay focused. The Feds have neither the manpower nor the willingness to confiscate the firearms of every American citizen. End of story.
Let the paranoia continue!😅

Scratch a liberal, reveal a fascist.

 

[Rambo]

After Hurricane Katrina, in the City of New Orleans 2005.

Let’s dissect this. First, historically NOPD was one of the most corrupt police departments in the nation. So much so that the Feds took it over at one point. In fact, citizens were so used to the corruption that they had a phrase,”Armed robbery by cop”.
During the Katrina disaster people evacuated their homes. National Guardsmen and various law enforcement agencies went door to door checking to see people made it out, spray painting the houses after a search. Firearms out in plain view were confiscated to keep out of the hands of looters. While people were being evacuated by buses to the Houston Astrodome, they were told no firearms on the buses so more firearms were collected. In all, about 2,200 were confiscated. Of those, only 552 were never reclaimed by their owners, partly because of miscommunication or the fact that they may not have been the legal owners. I mean, what are the odds of 552 firearms in a city of almost 200,000 being in the wrong hands?
If this were an attempt at mass firearm confiscation, it was poorly planned and poorly carried out. If it was an example of chaos in the wake of a natural disaster, then it is a shining example.

 

[Rambo]

Scratch a liberal, reveal a fascist.

You keep saying this. According to most here, I am a communist, socialist, leftist, liberal, Democrat Antifa. Saying I’m a Nazi or fascist would mean the opposite, since NAZIs and fascists have aligned themselves with the Republican Party.
You seem to be following in the playbook of Joseph Goebbels when you tell a lie enough, the people will believe it. 😎

 

[reverendg]

Let’s dissect this. First, historically NOPD was one of the most corrupt police departments in the nation. So much so that the Feds took it over at one point. In fact, citizens were so used to the corruption that they had a phrase,”Armed robbery by cop”.
During the Katrina disaster people evacuated their homes. National Guardsmen and various law enforcement agencies went door to door checking to see people made it out, spray painting the houses after a search. Firearms out in plain view were confiscated to keep out of the hands of looters. While people were being evacuated by buses to the Houston Astrodome, they were told no firearms on the buses so more firearms were collected. In all, about 2,200 were confiscated. Of those, only 552 were never reclaimed by their owners, partly because of miscommunication or the fact that they may not have been the legal owners. I mean, what are the odds of 552 firearms in a city of almost 200,000 being in the wrong hands?
If this were an attempt at mass firearm confiscation, it was poorly planned and poorly carried out. If it was an example of chaos in the wake of a natural disaster, then it is a shining example.

So you are OK with this blatant federal lawlessness. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Chef Duane]

You keep saying this. According to most here, I am a communist, socialist, leftist, liberal, Democrat Antifa. Saying I’m a Nazi or fascist would mean the opposite, since NAZIs and fascists have aligned themselves with the Republican Party.
You seem to be following in the playbook of Joseph Goebbels when you tell a lie enough, the people will believe it. 😎

Actually, I've never said that. And you're just the common ordinary leftist. Nothing special. And to think that fascism is a modern conservative trait is to profoundly misunderstand fascism. All a typical liberal has to do keep talking/posting and its true character will be revealed. A phenomenon you demonstrate with every post..

 

[Chef Duane]

So you are OK with this blatant federal lawlessness. Thanks for clarifying.
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Let’s dissect this. First, historically NOPD was one of the most corrupt police departments in the nation. So much so that the Feds took it over at one point. In fact, citizens were so used to the corruption that they had a phrase,”Armed robbery by cop”.
During the Katrina disaster people evacuated their homes. National Guardsmen and various law enforcement agencies went door to door checking to see people made it out, spray painting the houses after a search. Firearms out in plain view were confiscated to keep out of the hands of looters. While people were being evacuated by buses to the Houston Astrodome, they were told no firearms on the buses so more firearms were collected. In all, about 2,200 were confiscated. Of those, only 552 were never reclaimed by their owners, partly because of miscommunication or the fact that they may not have been the legal owners. I mean, what are the odds of 552 firearms in a city of almost 200,000 being in the wrong hands?
If this were an attempt at mass firearm confiscation, it was poorly planned and poorly carried out. If it was an example of chaos in the wake of a natural disaster, then it is a shining example.

A nazi apologist and now a corrupt to the core police apologist?? Wow.