Ok new to this and I read that you should "read your patches" realy have no clue what I would look for too begin with but Ive been looking all over for my fired patches. Im useing T/C precut .10 prelubed (ok Im lazy) with bore butter...around a .490 ball. Loads range from 60 grains to 120 of black powder or pryrodex FFFg. out of a T/C scout /(1:38 twist) and a Traditions panther (1:48 twist). ???? 1. If (I only found 2 patches so far) I ever find these darn things what am I looking for? 2. For some reason I can not find these patches..like they burn up or something...the 2 non-prelubed patches I did find were burned and ripped to peices. Is it common for the patches to be destroyed upon fireing? Is it the bore butter lube? I've seen soem powder sticking to the patches as I seat them so I figured they got rosted. I have shoot these guns 4x alone on a range and walked to/from the target to shooting line back and forth in a path about 20 yards wide and aint seen nothing...Coures in my mind they should all be laying around in about the same place.. Thanks All.