Promising source for handgun shot loads

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  1. jerry

    jerry Since 03-15- 2002 Forum Contributor

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  2. Mindy up North

    Mindy up North G&G Evangelist

    Neat! I may need to start doing that...
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  4. runfiverun

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    that's how we do it.
    a gas check, and a piece of card stock.

    you need some 30 caliber gas checks.
    they got them there cheap by the thousand.

    you can make your own card stock wads with a sharpened case, a drill, and a nail with a piece of wood on the sharp end.
     
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    A hollow punch set and cereal boxes make for fast and easy overshot cards
     
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  7. jerry

    jerry Since 03-15- 2002 Forum Contributor

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    Thanks for the heads up Randy
    I’d be interested in how they do. I would jump in myself at some point. I’m thinking when I break down and buy a bag of shot when I get in the mood to load shotgun shells.

    I hate buying shot. My pea brain is still stuck on it being $13.00 a bag back when I loaded a lot. Not much cost advantage to loading shot shells any longer. The exception is you can get the exact load you like as opposed to off the shelf.
     
  8. Palladin8

    Palladin8 G&G Evangelist

    I tried it with 45 Colt and found that it leaded my barrel something fierce. To the point I could barely see rifling in part of the barrel.
    I just use the Speer shot shell capsules now and don't look back.
     
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  9. jerry

    jerry Since 03-15- 2002 Forum Contributor

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    Wonder if the hardness of the shot would matter much? It’s a thing to a certain extent in traditional shot shells.

    https://www.shotgunlife.com/shotguns/tom-roster/understanding-lead-shot-quality-part-2.html

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  10. jerry

    jerry Since 03-15- 2002 Forum Contributor

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  11. Palladin8

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    I don't know about the hardness but it was chilled shot that I bought to load in my shotgun. Don't know how i'd feel about shooting nickle plated shot down my barrel. For the few times i'd actually shoot them it might not hurt anything.

    I was just looking on Midway and I didn't see anything for the 32 Cal.
     
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  12. jerry

    jerry Since 03-15- 2002 Forum Contributor

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    Agreed. I’d have to look at the nickel. A lot of times, with “copper plated” for example, it’s more of a wash coating. But like you say, a few here and there. Would need to trust verify.
    What specifically were you searching midway for in regards to .32?


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  13. Ranger4

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    I wonder if it would help to powder coat regular chilled shot? By just spreading out enough to cover say a pizza pan with aluminum foil on it, then sprinkling with the powder, shaking a bit, then heating, would cover most of the surfaces. That one time would provide enough shot for a very long time. I do it with shot that I cast in 0, 00, 000 buck, .433 and .454 round balls. I load some of them in pistol calibres but have not shot enough to know if it matters much. Seems like a few in chilled shot might be worth the time.

    In your 32s, you can load the 00 buck in single or double ball loads and get a cheap and fun plinking load. Work for turtles in a pond also.
    FWIW
     
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  14. jerry

    jerry Since 03-15- 2002 Forum Contributor

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    Appreciate ya.
    I opened up a 12ga 00 buck load. My calipers, the ball comes in at approx .334
    Lead projectiles I load for .32. are .313.
    They wouldn’t fit in a fired case, way off.
    Are we thinking of a different buck shot size? Thanks


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  15. Ranger4

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    No, the oversize is just part of the deal. I have not personally loaded the 32s in handguns, only in a few 32 acp. , so it may be more work than desired. In fact they might need to be run through a sizer, not sure. But am aware others that load them in 32 H and R. I have a chamber adapter that takes 32 acp and I shoot them in my British 303, they are like a 22 short, almost silent and actually group about 1.5 inches at 50 yards. I am playing with loading with the 00 buck for loading and shooting in that gun and that is how I got into that subject. Only loaded a few, so no real experience yet, too new a project, range trips shut down by covid. Sorry for the confusion, just a part of my round ball loading project.

    The 32s take the 00 Buck, the 38s take the 000 buck, the 44s take the .433 ball and the 45s take the .454 ball. They are soft lead so you just open the case up slightly push them in the desired depth with a seating die or anything really and then run the case back thru the sizing die or I use the Lee Factory Crimp die, or you can also use a regular crimp. You may see a slight bulge in the case, but the sizing die cures it. When it comes out the bullet is a tiny bit oblong but they all shoot pretty accurately so I have never cared.

    The 00 Buck is supposed to be .330. I have a few left in a 5 lb box from Hornady and just measured them, they range from .327-.331. I believe they are pure lead. They are $30 per 5 or $6 per pound which would likely last a lifetime. There are 574 in a pound so a little over 1 cent each, still less than 3 cents if you load 2 balls, about 4 cents for a primer and maybe 3 grains of Unique for a reload at about 2 cents, for a total cost of reloading a 32 H and R mag at about 9 cent per round. You end up with 2 balls at 61 grains each coming out at about 750-800 fps, about like 2 32 acp. Not a dragon slayer, but a fun load. If you look up gallery loads, they only load a single ball to about 550-600 fps, but that is just too slow for me and I really like that second ball, especially if shooting at something like a snake or turtle in a pond or a running skunk. Probably work good on raccoons if trying to shoot them at night by flashlight.

    I load 2 balls in the 38, 44 and 45 and one ball in 45 acp as gallery loads. Just another fun thing for an old guy to do. In 38 I used 2 71 grain balls with 4.5 grain Unigue for about 750 fps. In the 44 mag I load 2 120 grain round balls with 10.0 grains Unigue at about 900 fps. In the 45 Colt I load 8 grains Unigue behind 2 140 grain round balls at 700-750 fps. All of the balls are slightly oversize so once loaded go back through the sizing die. That keeps them from coming loose under recoil. It is a little extra work, but cheap and fun and I only load a box or two at a time and they last a long time for me.

    I have been doing this for decades in 38 and 44 but the last few years the companies loading for the 410 pistols have been mixing up the ball and shot and other formulas and selling them for big bucks. Anyway just another cheap way to play with guns. Mine are pretty accurate at pistol ranges.
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1013137187/
     
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  16. Dutch

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    You pretty much have to get shot at $13 a bag to make it worth while for the casual shot gunner.

    I still load 12 and 20, but I’m down to a few hundred pounds of shot. Once that’s gone I’ll be buying off the shelf ammo too. Unless a bunch of shot shows up for cheap again, which isn’t likely. If I had a shot maker it’d be a different story, but I’m not terribly interested in making that particular investment.

    You sure would get mileage out of a bag if you were just making pistol loads though!
     
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  17. Palladin8

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    I was looking for the Speer Shot Capsules.
     
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