You know, since I've got on this forum, my entire attitude has changed about Garands. I bought one back in the mid eighties just to have one and use as a beater gun to give to my friends during deer season (that one was SA 416XXX). This forum has caused me to become a Garand "NUT". I don't understand it, but now I have three...this is getting ridiculous. Right now it's only me to blame, if I was still married, of course I'd blame you guys. I wish this forum had'abeen around in the 'good'ol days' I could retire now. LOL! Thanks!