I have owned my model 710 270win. for about four years and have had three different scopes on it. Normally I can hold a quarter sized pattern with every other rifle I have shot at 100yds., weather it is with iron sights or scope. With this rifle I cannot even get a two inch pattern consistently, these are three round bursts. If anyone wants this gun for $300 without scope then they can have it. The MSRP is $426 with a scope, but, I have already sold the original scope with my marlin 30/30, but it does come with an extra magazine. To put it in layman's terms, I cannot stand a rifle that is not accurate 100% of the time and this is one of them.