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make sure you get the disassembly and reassembly DVD while your there.

that has brass????
 

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Here it is ! I was delivered to the gunshop today .
You are going to enjoy it. When you go to the range take a couple big bottles of water and blew them apart. It gives you an idea of the power, lots more than the 44 pistol, sometimes double.
 

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For anyone interested KentuckyGunCo has several in stock 4 versions in 44 mag and 2 in 357 mag. The 357 is hard to find. $612 is a pretty good price for them. I bought my 16 inch and another gun there. Great folks, they have some sweat heart deal with Rossi because they get a lot of them. If interested in either of the 357s better order it tonight, they do not last long. They have two versions of the 44 mag with the 16 inch barrel, also hard to find. I think hunters buy the 20 inch and cowboy action guys buy the 24 inch octagonal barrel and some people just like the short for defense or fun. I have both the 16 and 20. All of the guys who follow Leverguns.com. The RossiRifleman and Steve's gun check that site daily is why they disappear. A bunch of old cult guys. Guess I need a 24 inch too. FWY


These first two are 357.




This last one is a little 44 mag tactical. Lol


 
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i bet the 357's with the 24" barrels don't last long.
 
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i bet the 357's with the 24" barrels don't last long.
None of the 357s last long. It took me 3 years to find a stainless 16 inch. The hardest to find is the 454. Here is a pic of the long one, the add is wrong, it says 20 inch. I bought a used one, 20 inch stainless. My fav of all levers. It has both the tube load and the side load. It rivals my stainless Marlin Guide gun for first place in my mind. Both shoot 300 grain bullets over 1800 fps and the book says they will do more, but my shoulder will not. The Rossi 454 is that original bush pilot gun so you will never see one on a shelf. Probably the most versatile for hunting is the 44 Geral bought,although the 45 Colt can be loaded that hot too. The 357s are just plain fun. The prices on guns america are nuts $800-$900 for some.The 20 inch blue over there is $800. That's why I posted, the one above is $608 and that includes free shipping.

 

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i had the chance to buy both the 454 and the 480 Ruger on a closeout sale.
i drove all the way home and turned around because i really wanted the 480, but thought i'd just get them both.
[had the money at the time so no big deal]
of course neither one was available by the time i returned, i haven't seen either one in person since.
 
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I love my Rossi .357, it's a very good shooter. I also love my Rossi .22 lr pump. Both are very fun to shoot.
 

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i had the chance to buy both the 454 and the 480 Ruger on a closeout sale.
i drove all the way home and turned around because i really wanted the 480, but thought i'd just get them both.
[had the money at the time so no big deal]
of course neither one was available by the time i returned, i haven't seen either one in person since.
I had a chance to buy a stainless 480 for $750 and told the guy I needed to think about it, the next day it was long gone. I did find that stainless 454 used and was smart enough to grab it. Most of them are like new because they are brutal to shoot. Lol I also have the stainless guide gun. The 45-70 is much more fun to shoot with both shooting 300 grain bullets at 1800 fps. I down load both of them also for fun days. I put the 454 above my 3.5 inch turkey loads and equal to my 300 Weatherby loads. My recoil tolerance puts the 30-06 at a zero or baseline, I could shoot a couple hundred loads and I have without any big deal. 10 rounds of that 454 with factory loads is about all I want in any one day. But I sure do enjoy it.

Playing around with the 454 just for grins I loaded some 45 acp ball into the 454 cases, so they were a bit undersized, but at 1766 fps they were accurate and mild, so I am going to ply with those a bit more. Need a flat point bullet so I may powder cost some 255 grain Kieth bullets and see what they do at 1800fps or so. They say a 45 Colt with that bullet moving at 900 fps will go thru a mule deer lengthwise. Seems like it would really do some damage at 1800. My inquiring mind wants to know.
 
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Used to own a preowned 1990's era Rossi Puma in .38/357
Basic, reliable, fairly accurate (50yds)
At 100 yds had minute of coffee can accuracy.
I have both Marlins and Rossis in 357. My 1981 Marlin scoped will shoot 1.25 inch groups with 125 grain bullets. A scoped lever is just not as much fun and my groups would be minute of 5 gallon bucket at 100, with the open sights. Although, sometimes I get very lucky. I own several 357 revolvers, small, medium, and large so having the lever Guns is just handy. My light load in a pistol are about 400 foot pounds up to about 1000 in the rifles, so they cover a lot of ground. I just think everybody could use a 357 lever.
 
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The .38/.357 has its place.
Its fun and shoots a revolver round.
It has limitations, once you know what those limitations are, just dont go beyond them.
You want a flat shooting 300 yd lever gun then buy a Henry Long Ranger in .223 Remington.
 

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the 357 lever rifles with the 24" barrel will smoke a 180 out to some impressive speeds.
not all of them will do it though, when taurus took over from Rossi they changed the twist rate and some of those guns won't stabilize anything over 125grs.
they done the same thing to the 44 sticking the 44-40's twist rate in them making 200's pretty much their limit.

i have no such issues with any of mine.
my only issues have been trying to push the oal too far.
i ended up modifying the cartridge stop on the lifter in my stainless 44 just so i could shoot 240gr cast SWC's [lymans keith copy] in it.
i can easily go .020 over in my 45's, but i have to seat the 454424 to the front drive band, and a 200gr swc for the 45 acp has to be seated to the front drive band and taper crimped.
i don't know why i do stuff like that?
i guess cause i got the bullets?
 
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The .38/.357 has its place.
Its fun and shoots a revolver round.
It has limitations, once you know what those limitations are, just dont go beyond them.
You want a flat shooting 300 yd lever gun then buy a Henry Long Ranger in .223 Remington.
I have had one or more 357 lever Guns for forty years, so I am pretty familiar with their limitations. I have killed well over 100 deer antelope and elk and never took a 357 deer hunting. That said, I only hunt big deer, no does or small bucks at all. I know people who use them for deer and I guess if you shoot deer trained to come to feeders where your shots are 20-30 yards they would be fine, that is not hunting to me, so my shots are seldom close. The deer I killed last year was 282 yards.

I will not use anything less than a 243 on big deer .. So I do not use the 357 for that. Mostly as a camp and truck gun with an occasional shot at a coyote. Some years fall turkey hunting allows rifles and I have taken it for that season. Most folks just use 38 wad cutters for the turkeys. But 22 mag works just as well.

The Henry Lone Ranger is just a clone of the Browning lever gun. It only has a 20 inch barrel and all my distance shooting guns like my 223 , 257 Wby, 30-06 , and 300h Wby ave 22-26 inch tubes, so that little Lone Ranger does not appeal to me. Mostly I just do not care for that rack and pinion lever action design. I just like the historical look and feel. That Lone Ranger is $1200 by the way.

You make a good point about the limitations of the 357 lever gun. Probably just for fun more than anything else but also useful for defense if need be or dispatching bad critters. We have had a couple people killed by dog packs and a dozen injured in my area. While any handgun would do,that 800-1000 foot pounds out of the lever gun would do it quick. I have ARs Including a 300 Blk pistol, but they are not as fun to carry around as a lever gun. And nobody gets excited when they see a lever gun.. Anyway, they fill a need at my house. Oh did I mention I have grand kids? They like lever Guns...
 

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The .38/357 vs. .30 carbine.
Both sides to the same coin?
Problem is the limited variety of .30 carbine ammunition.
Yes there was a 4 shot box mag fed Marlin model 62 .30carbine levermatic.
The model 62 was not exactly a tack driving target rifle.
 

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