[marker227]

Hi there. I am shooting a .308 110 Accutrigger Savage . I was wondering what kind of scope I should buy for my Savage rifle. I need to be able to see up to 300 yards in very good vision. I am doing precision shooting at my local range. I also would like some info on where I could get a good set of scope rings. Thank you.

 

[Mooseman684]

I recommend a Leupold scope, for optical clarity, and Lifetime guarantee , you just wont find better for the price. 3-9 or 4-12 power tactical scope like SWAT uses is a great choice, as they are tough and will hold zero after hundreds of shots.

 

[myarmor]

No doubt, Leupold is an excellent optics maker. If, though, you are on a budget, I recomend these for the money:
http://www.muelleroptics.com/ go check out the Tacticle 8.5-25x44 Model..it's $150. I have yet to hear hardly any bad reports on Mueller scopes. Excellent glass and great prices.

Next up the Bushnell Legend:
http://www.natchezss.com/category.c...rodID=BH755154M&CFID=2209117&CFTOKEN=38397674
These have excellent light trans at 91%. A good scope.

And if these are a little too high then the Banner line isn't too bad for the money:
http://www.natchezss.com/category.c...prodID=BH716185&CFID=2209117&CFTOKEN=38397674
or
http://www.natchezss.com/category.c...prodID=BH716244&CFID=2209117&CFTOKEN=38397674

Rings?
http://www.natchezss.com/category.c...=BU&mfgGroup=94&CFID=2209117&CFTOKEN=38397674

These are about the best value around if your on a budget my friend. And good to hear you picked up that Savage.
Hows the Ol' Mauser shooting for ya?

 

[Despoiler]

I recommend a Leupold scope, for optical clarity, and Lifetime guarantee , you just wont find better for the price. 3-9 or 4-12 power tactical scope like SWAT uses is a great choice, as they are tough and will hold zero after hundreds of shots.

I would listen to mooseman that is what I have on my Savage rifle, a Leupold scope 3x9. I don’t even know where I got the rings for it I believe that they are the ones that came with the Simmons scope that came with the rifle or maybe not. But I do know that it is a consistent shooter and the scope was worth the money.

 

[Mooseman684]

Oh, and scope rings (Good ones) are available at any good gun store,K-Mart,Wal-Mart, Cabelas, but for the best selection..Brownells !
Rich

PS...I wouldn't put a Bushnell on my pellet Rifle, They fog inside if you breathe hard on em .
The Top Scopes are:
Swarovski,IOR Valdada,Kahles,Shepherd,
Leupold, Redfield,Zeiss, Trijicon,Nikon, Weaver, and the little Known Super Sniper Series!

 

[marker227]

That's odd. The gunsmith I am going to was going to sell me a Tasco scope (not sure what the power was, but it was a 40mm) for $225.

What kind of SWAT scope with a great power can I get for 200-300 dollars? . I also like a scope that you don't have to put your eye directly on. I saw some other scopes on that site and the power is different, but I don't really want to start asking about each scope and what makes each one so different (I'll ask about differences between scope powers later so it doesn't clutter this thread up before I choose a scope to buy). I'll leave it up to you experienced shooters to tell me .

Hows the Ol' Mauser shooting for ya?

Well, the rifle is in, but my gunsmith has it . It's been on backorder for like 2 months haha (probably because it's a lefty).

Anyway.. The mauser is just awesome. I love everything about it. I have a piece of history!!!!!!! The wood is beautiful and so is everything else on the gun. It feels so good to have because I am just in love with WWII history. I also figured out that the surplus ammo I bought from aimsurplus was no good for it. It had steel casings (needed brass) and it got jammed a few times. Although, I love the gun, but it's just too painful and crude to shoot . PS. I can't really be accurate with it because of the recoil . Oh and the cleaning!! It gets so dirty. My guess was that since it was old it would get dirty easily. I just can't wait to have a good primary rifle to shoot at the range that will still be tons of fun, but very accurate at 300 yds (if I can make it up to that )

Thanks for asking .

 

[lefty o]

your gunsmith is high, there is no tasco scope worth that kind of money. checkout natchezz, midway, brunos shooter supply, and brownells ( overpriced, but they always have things in stock).

 

[Mooseman684]

Actually there are high end Tasco scopes, I mentioned it above...the
Super Sniper series, that come in 10x or 16x with Mil-Dot reticle were Tasco and awarded a U.S.Navy Contract for the Seals! I have 2 of them for My .50 Caliber Armalite. They sell for 300-400 dollars! The Old Tasco was bought out August 2002 and absorbed by another Company so Things have changed in respect to warranties ,etc. and I personally have not tested the New line of Scopes, and since they Burned Me on a warranty once, I stay away from them now.
The Super Sniper Series have 30 mm Tubes, Is that the scope he offered you?

 

[marker227]

I don't think so. The one he offered was a decent, but not a really good scope. He said the next one up would be a lot more expensive.

8.5-25x44AO Tactical

That one looks good, but I'm still not good enough with the numbers to know how far and close up to a target it will see.

Thanks guys.

PS: I just got my Savage.

 

[Mooseman684]

The first numbers are Magnification so a 3-9 X40 would be adjustable from 3 power to 9 power, the next is the Front lens Size in millimeters.40=40mm,
50=50mm and is larger for gathering more light under low light conditions.
AO is Adjustable Objective which means you can focus sharper on the Target, but, Not recomended for fast shooting like deer hunting, because you have to focus manually,Ok for target and sniper shooting, the cheaper scopes have the adjustment at the front lens of the scope on a ring. Higher end scopes have a third knob on the left side to adjust the Objective focus.
Having the knob is faster and not having to reach out to the front of the scope is a big plus! NEXT...The higher the magnification, the larger the target will appear in the eyepiece, but anything over 10 power at long range will be affected by the Mirage Effect of heat waves and light refraction which = blurry target. I suggest you find a gun store with different scopes and LOOK thru them at an object the size of a target at 300-400 yards away, and see what YOUR eyes like for Magnification, Clarity, and Eye relief before you buy something that you may not like once you use it ! Talk to other shooters ( Experienced ones, Not know it alls) and see what they like or recommend or what they use that you can look thru and go from there!
Rich

 

[ash]

Nikon 3X9 is good enough for a .308 should run you just under $200.

 

[marker227]

I will try that MooseMan. I might get a Tasco since I have already looked through one . Of course, I'll get a more expensive one .

Thanks for all of your help. I'll buy one really soon.

ash - http://www.natchezss.com/category.c...&prodID=LU58160&CFID=2209117&CFTOKEN=38397674

I like this one and it's power is good, but I don't see enough details on it to know more about eye relief and such.

I'm gonna print some of these scopes out and talk to my gunsmith. Thanks.

 

[Mooseman684]

for 299.95 you can purchase a Super Sniper Series 10x42 ,16x42, or 20x42 rear focus parallax adjustment, 30mm tube, Black matte finish with the Mil-Dot reticle, 50cal. OK Scope from SWFA (www.RifleScopes.com and I recommend the 10x 42 hands down. I have it mounted on my .50BMG Armalite and I love it! perfect for up to 500 yards, and once you get used to the mildot reticle as a rangefinder, you have an edge !You need High 30 mm rings for it but the bigger tube gathers more light!
Rich

 

[myarmor]

Once you look though a nice quality scope you might not ever look through a Tasco again. The difference can be immense, depending on your eyes and what brand you look through.
Here's an couple more that are in your price range:
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&src=iF23&prodID=SN849412

Fixed scopes are nice too, and are solid with less moving parts:
http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=3252

http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=2522


http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=3269

http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=3613

http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=3615

All these are great scopes that would serve you very well.

 

[marker227]

The one you just recommended "hands down" looks very good. Heck, the eye relief is 4! This will be the first scope I show my dealer. How come it's a set number (10)? Does that mean I can't focus down from there (fixed scope)? For me, I imagine that it would be helpful to have a scope that could zoom in and out from at least 50-300 yards (those are the lengths of where targets can be). The targets at the range go like this: 50 yds, 100 yds, 300 yds. There might be a 200 yds, but I doubt it. Thanks a bunch. I have a good feeling about this one.


Ok the rings... I don't just want rings. I saw this. http://www.savagearms.com/images/lawEnforcement/sniper.jpg I think the scope is on rings then its on some sort of rail thats mounted onto the action. I'm wanting that because I noticed that there were little groves so you could bump the scope forward or backwards. I hope your know what I'm talking about haha.

http://www.totalpaintballgear.com/images/Armotech/accessories/WG-Elite-Sight-Rail.gif It looked very similar to this.


Thanks myarmor too. I'll keep my eye open.

 

[myarmor]

Are you refering to the Bushnell 3200 10x40 with Target Turrets I posted?
There are many benifits to fixed scopes, and if I'm not mistaken a lot of Snipers use them cause they are simple, rugged, and strong. Not to mention lighter than a lot of variables, because they have less mving parts.
I have heard from severa guys that have this scope and love it, nothing bad to say at all.
As for the pic you posted, now I might be wrong on this one, if so I am sure someone will correct me. But it looks to me to be a slightly modified Weaver rail. You can have either a 2 piece mount or on single rail, like the one shown.
Again If I'm wrong, someone will correct me on this.

 

[Mooseman684]

Mine is set up with a "picatinny Rail" and Leupold Quick disconnect Set of 30mm rings Holding the 10x42 Super Sniper scope, So I can remove the whole scope and Transport it separate. The Picatinny rail has grooves for setting the scope in an optimum position, then, I put a little yellow paint in the grooves to mark the position of the scope,and return it to the proper position each time ! It has never Lost zero with this setup.
Yes, the 10x 42 SSS Scopes are all Fixed power, so no zooming in or out, but That is part of the Range finding as well as using the Mildot reticle, You have a Mathematical Constant to work with, for the type of shooting that you are doing it works very well.
Oh, and with the Picatinny rail and quick disconnect setup you can have 2 or 3 different Scopes, each with QD rings and swap them out for different conditions or use, Like a 10x for target, A 3x-9x for Hunting, and a Night vision scope for after Hours Use ! Once they are all zeroed on the bench, you are good to go!
Rich

 

[toolman]

It all depends on the $$$ you have to spend. One of the best deals on the market right now is the Nikon 3x9x40 Prostaff. You can normally find it for around $150.00. One good source is www.cabelas.com The glass and clarity is excellent and they come with a lifetime warranty. Swift is another "unknown" company with good scopes, try http://www.eabco.com/Swift01.htm

 

[myarmor]

True. And Swifts Warranty is one of the best in the Biz. Scope screws up-take it to a dealer=new scope. If I went that route, I'd go with the Premier Line. http://www.swift-optics.com/products/sporting/premium_riflescopes

 

[marker227]

So far I'm going to bring printouts of these scopes to my gunsmith:

1. SCOPE 6-24X40 AO MIL DOT MATTE / $114.95

2. Super Sniper 10x42 30mm Rifle Scope / $299.95

3. 4.5-14x40 SF Buckmaster AO black Matte Riflescope / $279.95-299.95 (depending on modifications you get with it)

4. SCOPE RIFLEMAN 2X9 50MM WDX MATT / $269.99

I know you guys are all experienced and thats wonderful, but it's a little hard to figure out which scope would suit me best because you all have different scopes you like. I'm going to bring these scopes I just listed to the man who sold me the Savage 111 because he shoots at the range I go to and will know exactly what I would need for this range and my age.

So I want to thank you all with the information you provided me because now I can successfully choose a good scope and enjoy target shooting with my first left handed gun . Cheers!