[Cyrano]

It's all the same things we have been saying you ought to do, but with the consequences of an electromagnetic pulse extrapolated nationwide. It makes the preparations I have managed look pathetic. I seriously doubt if many of the Band of Fellers are prepared for something like this. Most of our prepping seems to be aimed at surviving civil disorder.

EMP Attack and Survival: How Bad Could It Be?

This is what the country would look like in the first 12 months after a large scale electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack. Are you prepared to survive an EMP?

www.shtfdad.com

 

[neophyte]

Cyrano: Sir; from the past. 1859 blast

A Perfect Solar Superstorm: The 1859 Carrington Event

In 1859 a massive solar flare spewed electrified gas and subatomic particles toward Earth, wreaking havoc on telegraph networks.

www.history.com

On the morning of September 1, 1859, amateur astronomer Richard Carrington ascended into the private observatory attached to his country estate outside of London. After cranking open the dome’s shutter to reveal the clear blue sky, he pointed his brass telescope toward the sun and began to sketch a cluster of enormous dark spots that freckled its surface. Suddenly, Carrington spotted what he described as “two patches of intensely bright and white light” erupting from the sunspots. Five minutes later the fireballs vanished, but within hours their impact would be felt across the globe.

That night, telegraph communications around the world began to fail; there were reports of sparks showering from telegraph machines, shocking operators and setting papers ablaze. All over the planet, colorful auroras illuminated the nighttime skies, glowing so brightly that birds began to chirp and laborers started their daily chores, believing the sun had begun rising. Some thought the end of the world was at hand, but Carrington’s naked eyes had spotted the true cause for the bizarre happenings: a massive solar flare with the energy of 10 billion atomic bombs. The flare spewed electrified gas and subatomic particles toward Earth, and the resulting geomagnetic storm—dubbed the “Carrington Event”—was the largest on record to have struck the planet

 

[neophyte]

adding: it is going to be a mess 🥸

DHS Combats Potential Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack | Homeland Security

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security continues to prepare against ever evolving threats against the American homeland, most recently highlighting efforts to combat an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) attack which could disrupt the electrical grid and potentially damage electronics. The department...

www.dhs.gov

Release Date: September 3, 2020
Releases: Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Program Status Report
WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) continues to prepare against ever evolving threats against the American homeland, most recently highlighting efforts to combat an Electromagnetic Pulse attack which could disrupt the electrical grid and potentially damage electronics. Today, the department is releasing the Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Program Status Report as part of an update on efforts underway in support of Executive Order (E.O.) 13865 on Coordinating National Resilience to Electromagnetic Pulses. E.O. 13865 establishes resilience and security standards for U.S. critical infrastructure as a national priority.
EMP weapons have the potential to disrupt unprotected critical infrastructure within the US and could impact millions over large parts of the country. Since the President’s signing of the E.O. in March 2019, DHS, through the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency (CISA), in coordination with the Science and Technology Directorate (S&T) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), has taken key actions to address known EMP-related vulnerabilities to critical infrastructure. The EMP Program Status Report highlights efforts taken across the public and private sector to foster increased resilience to EMP events. Through data analysis, vulnerability and risk assessments, testing and pilot programs, and government and industry engagement, the department is identifying critical infrastructure and associated functions that are at greatest risk from an EMP, and developing and implementing best practices to reduce the risk

 

[runfiverun]

the biggest problem is even though it can all be repaired the machines needed to make the parts to get the grid up and going again all run on electricity.

then someones are gonna have to go pole to pole to replace the parts and pieces.

can you say 10-15 years...
yep.
you better have livestock and breeding pairs at the minimum, canned goods ain't gonna cut it.
your gonna run out of stored fuel of all types long before they get anywhere even close to your place.

 

[ka5siw]

I have talked to engineers at Los Alamos National lab and the National Radio Astronomy Observatory about EMP event. They say an EMP event would take this country back to the 1880's. Besides every solid state device destroyed all the power transformers in the country would be destroyed. Right now there is a 1 year lead time for these large sub-station transformers and these transformers can not be built with out computer controlled equipment. They are projecting a 70 to 80% loss of life. The best advice they could say is buy a horse.

 

[Chef Duane]

I intend to lock myself and my wife in a Faraday Cage enclosed in a lead lined vault with a deck of cards and a bag of candy corn. Other than that, and in the event of a nuclear holocaust, my preferred place to be is directly beneath the goddamned bomb.

 

[SaigaAK74]

So, I suppose those that will survive will have an interesting new food source implemented to inner city populous.
Hope they come up with better food names then the previous Solent Green...

 

[runfiverun]

they'll call it rat, you'll be fine, unless you try to milk it.

 

[blue fox]

they'll call it rat, you'll be fine, unless you try to milk it.

"La Raza" "Best rat burger I ever had"

 

[Witsend]

adding: it is going to be a mess 🥸

DHS Combats Potential Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack | Homeland Security

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security continues to prepare against ever evolving threats against the American homeland, most recently highlighting efforts to combat an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) attack which could disrupt the electrical grid and potentially damage electronics. The department...

www.dhs.gov

Release Date: September 3, 2020
Releases: Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Program Status Report
WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) continues to prepare against ever evolving threats against the American homeland, most recently highlighting efforts to combat an Electromagnetic Pulse attack which could disrupt the electrical grid and potentially damage electronics. Today, the department is releasing the Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Program Status Report as part of an update on efforts underway in support of Executive Order (E.O.) 13865 on Coordinating National Resilience to Electromagnetic Pulses. E.O. 13865 establishes resilience and security standards for U.S. critical infrastructure as a national priority.
EMP weapons have the potential to disrupt unprotected critical infrastructure within the US and could impact millions over large parts of the country. Since the President’s signing of the E.O. in March 2019, DHS, through the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency (CISA), in coordination with the Science and Technology Directorate (S&T) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), has taken key actions to address known EMP-related vulnerabilities to critical infrastructure. The EMP Program Status Report highlights efforts taken across the public and private sector to foster increased resilience to EMP events. Through data analysis, vulnerability and risk assessments, testing and pilot programs, and government and industry engagement, the department is identifying critical infrastructure and associated functions that are at greatest risk from an EMP, and developing and implementing best practices to reduce the risk

I will file that under "things I will worry about when the time comes". They love their scary scenarios.

Nolte: Climate 'Experts' Are 0-41 with Their Doomsday Predictions

For more than 50 years Climate Alarmists in the scientific community and environmental movement have not gotten one prediction correct.

www.breitbart.com

 

[blue fox]

I will file that under "things I will worry about when the time comes". They love their scary scenarios.

Nolte: Climate 'Experts' Are 0-41 with Their Doomsday Predictions

For more than 50 years Climate Alarmists in the scientific community and environmental movement have not gotten one prediction correct.

www.breitbart.com

so there is now a study (I forget from exactly where) that says because the East Coast has (apparently) cleaner air it is causing an increase in hurricanes. The West Coast on the other hand, because it has much dirtier air is seeing a decrease in typhoons. I ma now totally confused. I thought that the object was to have cleaner air to stop climate change or at least slow it down.

 

[PaleHawkDown]

I have talked to engineers at Los Alamos National lab and the National Radio Astronomy Observatory about EMP event. They say an EMP event would take this country back to the 1880's. Besides every solid state device destroyed all the power transformers in the country would be destroyed. Right now there is a 1 year lead time for these large sub-station transformers and these transformers can not be built with out computer controlled equipment. They are projecting a 70 to 80% loss of life. The best advice they could say is buy a horse.

Why? I understand people in the big cities killing each other off for resources, but they only make up half the country. 14.4% of the country is immigrants, and most of those from countries with little infrastructure. 20% of the population lives in rural farming areas. A little less than 1% is Amish. 60,000 people live without electricity at all (Did You Know There Are 60,000 U.S. Citizens Who Lack Access to Electricity?), and 4% of Americans are choosing to live all or partially off-grid.

That's nearly 40% of the population that would be affected very little.

You don't get a 70% to 80% loss of life during a revolution or civil war, and that's with people lacking basic infrastructure and food, and being shot at and bombed.

Consider Hurricane Katrina. 1,170 people were killed by the storm, and in the aftermath of looting, rioting, and violence. No running water, no electricity, and a lack of food and resources . Out of an estimated 100,000 thousand people who stayed behind, that still only accounts for 1.17 percent. We just lived through a year of riots and violence and even among the population directly involved with those, relatively few people died.

Even the black plague, the deadliest thing to ever happen to humanity, only killed 30% of the population.

For many people, an EMP might be a wakeup call. No distractions, no office 9-5 daily grind, no getting angry on the internet, all your debts and financial obligations erased, no taxes. No stupid laws. No traffic. Sure that also means no money, and some hard times, but humanity has survived all that before - and recently, too.

 

[reverendg]

so there is now a study (I forget from exactly where) that says because the East Coast has (apparently) cleaner air it is causing an increase in hurricanes. The West Coast on the other hand, because it has much dirtier air is seeing a decrease in typhoons. I ma now totally confused. I thought that the object was to have cleaner air to stop climate change or at least slow it down.

Actual data shows that tornados hurricanes, extreme weather, is lessening, not getting worse. What suggests it is worse is the media.

 

[neophyte]

consideration: ponderings 🧐

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/

The IPCC AR6 presents a strong body of scientific evidence that it is unequivocal that humans have caused the earth’s climate to warm, with a likely human contribution of 0.8 to 1.3 degrees Celsius to global mean temperature since the late 1800s. But what does this anthropogenic global warming mean for Atlantic hurricane activity, or global tropical cyclone activity? Here, we address these questions, starting with those conclusions where we have relatively more confidence. The main text of this web page gives more background discussion. “Detectable” change here will refer to a change that is large enough to be clearly distinguishable from the variability due to natural causes. Our main conclusions are:
Likelihood Statements
The terminology here for likelihood statements follows these conventions for the assessed likelihood of an outcome or result:

• Very Likely: > 90%,
• Likely: > 66%
• More Likely Than Not (or Better Than Even Odds) > 50%

• Sea level rise – which human activity has very likely been the main driver of since at least 1971 according to IPCC AR6 – should be causing higher coastal inundation levels for tropical cyclones that do occur, all else assumed equal.
• Tropical cyclone rainfall rates are projected to increase in the future (medium to high confidence) due to anthropogenic warming and accompanying increase in atmospheric moisture content. Modeling studies on average project an increase on the order of 10-15% for rainfall rates averaged within about 100 km of the storm for a 2 degree Celsius global warming scenario.
• Tropical cyclone intensities globally are projected to increase (medium to high confidence) on average (by 1 to 10% according to model projections for a 2 degree Celsius global warming). This change would imply an even larger percentage increase in the destructive potential per storm, assuming no reduction in storm size. Storm size responses to anthropogenic warming are uncertain.
• The global proportion of tropical cyclones that reach very intense (Category 4 and 5) levels is projected to increase (medium to high confidence) due to anthropogenic warming over the 21st century. There is less confidence in future projections of the global number of Category 4 and 5 storms, since most modeling studies project a decrease (or little change) in the global frequency of all tropical cyclones combined.

 

[Witsend]

Actual data shows that tornados hurricanes, extreme weather, is lessening, not getting worse. What suggests it is worse is the media.

Climates change, but climate change is a total hoax. They want to use it to control us. That will be four carbon credits please. I try to keep it to myself, but a kindred spirit what pays attention is hard to not acknowledge.

 

[Chef Duane]

The IPCC AR6 presents a strong body of scientific evidence that it is unequivocal that humans have caused the earth’s climate to warm.

Hogwash. Any alphabet organization can put together statistics that can be made to say anything. Wasn't it Benjamin Disraeli who said "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics"? You know, NASA (yes, that NASA) says the climate on Mars is warming up and the polar ice caps are melting. And as for as I know, there ain't nooooo humans on Mars. (Except for Matt Damon, but only for a short time. Maybe it was him made the Martian polar ice caps melt.)

Mars is Melting | Science Mission Directorate

It's not every day you get to watch a planetary ice cap melt, but this month you can. All you need are clear skies, a backyard telescope, and a sky map leading to Mars.

science.nasa.gov

 

[PaleHawkDown]

Hogwash. Any alphabet organization can put together statistics that can be made to say anything. Wasn't it Benjamin Disraeli who said "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics"? You know, NASA (yes, that NASA) says the climate on Mars is warming up and the polar ice caps are melting. And as for as I know, there ain't nooooo humans on Mars. (Except for Matt Damon, but only for a short time. Maybe it was him made the Martian polar ice caps melt.)

Mars is Melting | Science Mission Directorate

It's not every day you get to watch a planetary ice cap melt, but this month you can. All you need are clear skies, a backyard telescope, and a sky map leading to Mars.

science.nasa.gov

Twain.

I've said it before, but man-made global warming doesn't even make logical sense, and it makes less sense due to their "evidence" and their theories constantly changing.

First off, this is one of the cooler periods in geologic history: What's the hottest Earth's ever been? | NOAA Climate.gov

Dinosaurs mostly lived on a much warmer Earth than we have now, and this is from NOAA, one of the spearheaders of the human-caused climate change myth.

 

[Witsend]

Twain.

I've said it before, but man-made global warming doesn't even make logical sense, and it makes less sense due to their "evidence" and their theories constantly changing.

First off, this is one of the cooler periods in geologic history: What's the hottest Earth's ever been? | NOAA Climate.gov

Dinosaurs mostly lived on a much warmer Earth than we have now, and this is from NOAA, one of the spearheaders of the human-caused climate change myth.

Sounds pretty obvious when you cam look past the fog of media lies. Alas few have this capability of reason still left in them.

 

[Chef Duane]

Twain.

Yes. Twain popularized it here in the US but he attributed it to Disraeli. Although it cannot be found in any of Disraeli's writings so go figure. Could'a been Ralph Kramden...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

 

[Jim Rau]

If it is localized it will be no different than any other localized disaster. But if it is WORLD WIDE, hang on to you back side, as there will be no 'out side' relief on the way!!!