Oakleaf, interesting points. Most everyone living out here in the country has dogs. Kirby, our lab's main function is to alert us to trucks and people in our area. She is mostly inside or where ever we are on the property. We resqued her out of the pound at about 10 to 12 weeks of age. Talk about a total bond with us. Kirby is 10 years old so we will enjoy her company these last 2 or 3 years. I would like to get another pup and let Kirby kind'a train her as I hope the new dog would mirror Kirby's temperment. I am thinking of a yellow lab, large enough to be a issue if crossed yet the temperment to protect. This dog will not be trained to hunt. We are different than most people when it comes to SHTF, we are staying put. Back in the 1990's I read books by Mel Tappan and directly and indirectly I fashioned my life by his writtings. We are located about 100 miles from a major city and living out in the country we have bought meat on the hoof and butchered it ourselves.