Taurus PT92, Roll Call....do you own a PT92 or 99? If so, tell us about it.

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by 9mmfan, May 29, 2008.

  1. I have own a Taurus PT 92 for about one year. So far, after thousands of rounds I have only had one jam, and I think it was due to some cheap hollow points I was using. Do you own a Taurus PT92 or PT99? If so, tell us about it, how long have you owned it? Has it ever jammed or have you had any problems with it?

    Thanks, 9mm fan
  2. Bravo

    Bravo G&G Newbie

    I'm interested in seeing what people say in this thread.

    I've always wanted an M92 handgun, and thought that the budget Taurus guns might be the way to go. I don't mind paying cheap prices if the guns are good quality :D

  3. 9mmfan. I have both of them. Awesome pistols. no issues with neither.
  4. I bought a PT92 in 1985, put several thousand rounds through it over a 20 year period, never once had a jam with any ammo, factory or reloaded.
  5. F1609

    F1609 Guest

    shot my first today, absolutely loved it. Pretty accurate, no jams but only put 50 rnds through it. Thought it was a nice gun, pretty sure it was the PT92.
  6. oldjarhead

    oldjarhead G&G Evangelist

    I have a PT-99 purchased in 1996, put many hundreds of rounds down range with not a single problem. She eats anything I feed her...so far anyway.
    I also have a PT-58 purchased in 1989...never had a problem with her either and I've used just about all ammo brands.
    I have a fine opinion of Taurus' steel guns...don't know about their poly guns but I don't care for poly guns anyway.
  7. Personally, I think that the Taurus PT92 is probably the best hand gun that Taurus has ever made. I have own a Beretta 92FS about 5 years and the Taurus PT92 about one year. The Beretta has been my government issued side arm at work for over 5 years.

    My Taurus has shot just as well as the Beretta. The slide and the frame on the Taurus is thicker, some holsters won't fit both. And the Taurus has the safety built on the frame, instead of the slide like the Beretta has. Most people prefer the safety to be on frame. It is also nice to have a handgun that you can carry "cocked and locked" like you can the Taurus. I like the black finish on the Beretta better than the blued finish on the Taurus, but the Taurus I own is the stainless steel model anyway so I guess that really doesn't matter that much to me. Here is a review from Gun-Tests magazine that everyone here might be interested reading. Keep in mind that Gun-Tests excepts no outside advertising in there magazine:

    Review from Gun Tests:

    Taurus PT92AFS
    Our recommendation: Buy it. Copying the Beretta design is a no-brainer—the resulting gun works well. Throw in the Taurus lifetime guarantee plus the option of cocked-and-locked carry, and this $525 pistol is arguably the best value in self-defense 9mm handguns.

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]The AFS is the top of the line for Taurus’s Beretta 92–based pistols. It is two-tone stainless steel, brushed on the top end and bright on the frame. Ours did not arrive with the Brazilian wood stocks, but it did have a rear sight featuring two white dots and adjustment for windage and elevation. The basic pistol in this series, the PT92B, is a blue-steel pistol with fixed sights.[/FONT]

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]In terms of feel, the Taurus front strap is flatter than the Berettas, lacking the flare at the bottom. Also, the grip doesn’t have a channel from the beavertail undercut to the mag release. We are accustomed to rolling a pistol in the hand to connect with the mag release, but the front edge of the grip tends to block such a maneuver. Furthermore, the distance between the apex of the beavertail and the center of the mag release button is 1.9 inches, 0.3 inches more to reach than on its Italian first cousin once removed. While the lines cut into the grip frame fore and aft are mild, they proved to be effective in anchoring the gun in our hands. Weight distribution seems to be toward the shooter, and there is just enough heft to kill recoil, but not overload the hand. The primary difference from the Beretta pistols is the Taurus’s ambidextrous slide safety, which locks the slide and prevents the trigger from operating in both the single and double action mode. The Taurus’s safety lever was available to the strong-hand thumb without a change of grip, even for those with medium-sized hands. We feel this is key to combat readiness. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]The Taurus PT92 was the overall accuracy winner. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]From the rest, all three pistols handled about the same, are more than accurate for defensive applications, and were 100 percent reliable. This sounds perfect, doesn’t it? But our additional tests for practical accuracy go further in determining what we feel is the true combat readiness of a pistol. In terms of a Bullseye match or static target session. it can be said that the target is known, the target is located and waiting. All that is needed is to mount the gun with the trigger mode of least resistance, hold steady and fire. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]In defensive-gun tests like this one, we try a more Practical approach, requiring our testers to shoot the guns more reflexively under draw-and-fire conditions. For this test, we chose Speer’s 147-grain Gold Dot hollow-point (GDHP) ammo. Our choice of holster was the three-slot pancake design by Old World from Michaels of Oregon. The three slots allow for strong side as well as weak side (cross-draw) carry. A thumb-break snap is included, making it an appropriate universal Beretta/Beretta-clone holster. Drawing and firing from any position made it painfully obvious there was no way either Beretta could defeat the Taurus. Why? Because the Taurus PT92 series pistols may be holstered safely with the hammer back, requiring only a short, single-action trigger press. The Berettas, on the other hand, offer a long double-action pull on the first shot or the challenge of thumbing back the hammer during the draw. While all three guns may be carried with a loaded chamber and hammer down by activating the decocker, only the Taurus PT92 offers a third carry option of hammer back, safety on. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]The Old World holster accommodates this mode with a strap that crosses under the hammer. Would we consider carrying either Beretta with hammer back and rely upon the strap to guard the exposed firing pin. No. Did we consider holstering the Berettas with hammer back to even the odds in the timed draw and fire test? Thought of it, yes, acted on it, no. The whole reasoning behind the decocker and the double action first shot found on so many semi-autos today is to avoid undue liability for an errant or inaccurate first shot. Unless a pistol incorporates a 1911 design, like the Heckler & Koch USP series, or like the PT92 have a thumb-operated safety, we do not feel safe relying upon a device separate from the gun to secure a cocked hammer. However, all three guns fit snugly enough into the Old World holster to preclude the use of the retention strap when additional protection from an accidental hammer fall is not necessary. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Once each of the pistols was in single-action mode, all three guns shot with about the same feel. The Taurus trigger was noticeably lighter, and the shooter was more aware of the full valance of the trigger. Our Brownells Chatillion gauge registered each Beretta trigger at 6.5 pounds single action, but the take-up and engagement of the 92FS trigger felt more willing than the press offered by the Elite, in our estimation. In a game of draw and fire, shooting five shots at 10 yards over three strings, the best 15-shot group (measuring 4 inches) was delivered by the Beretta Elite, and it only put one shot outside the black. The Beretta 92 showed four shots outside the black for a group of 4.7 inches. The Taurus only showed one shot outside the black, but the group was the largest at 5.5 inches. But there is more. Both the Berettas printed low left. This is a result of a trigger-control problem in which too much finger is left on the trigger after transitioning from double to single action. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]While the Taurus PT92’s group was largest, it had the bulk of its hits not only in the black but in the X ring. Moreover, each string fired from the Berettas was 0.75 to 1 second slower than any of the strings shot with the Taurus. The loss of time was evident on the draw while carefully lining up the sights during the double action pull and between the first and second shots that transition from DA to SA.[/FONT]

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Beretta 92FS[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Our recommendation: Conditional Buy. It’s hard to fault the original, and obviously it carries the tacit recommendation of the armed forces. But in our view, the $691 gun is limited by hammer-down carry. [/FONT]

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Choosing a gun for the way it feels in the hand is important. Based on this criterion alone, perhaps everyone should own a Beretta 92 series pistol. They just feel great. Also, it is hard to argue with its classic styling, which on our FS was heightened by a low-key two-tone stainless-steel treatment wherein the slide is darker than the frame. The slide stop and breakdown levers match the slide, which is further accented with a bold red dot that is hidden when the ambidextrous decocker/safety lever is placed in the safety-on position. This safety disconnects the trigger when the pistol is in the hammer-down position. Activating this lever with the hammer back drops the hammer safely onto a loaded chamber. This gun is unsafe if it is carried with the hammer back in single action, in our opinion. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]From the driver’s seat we saw a generous rear sight notch that offers plenty of search room for the front sight. The rear sight is windage adjustable only, but it is the front sight that disappoints. The front is the same color as the slide and reflects too much light. On the 0.0112-inch-wide front blade, the engraved and red-painted dot is distracting, but we found neither the front red dot nor the two red dots in the rear sight particularly easy or fast to pick up. We feel a dark, striated front sight with perhaps a white dot that didn’t overtake the edges of the front sight would be a better choice. [/FONT]

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]In terms of maintenance, the 92 series is easy to break down It’s really no wonder this pistol was chosen for battlefield duty. No tools are needed to break it down. Once apart, there are no small pieces that can be easily lost. Its design offers reliability without having to machine-in loose tolerances that can sabotage accuracy. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]But as a civilian weapon, where confrontation is bound to be a surprise more often than on the battlefield, we feel omitting the option of cocked-and-locked carry is a minus. [/FONT]

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Beretta Elite[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Our recommendation: Conditional Buy. For some extra money ($40), we think some the Elite’s upgrades make owning this pistol more enjoyable than its stablemate. [/FONT]

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]As a combat upgrade, Beretta offers the $732 Elite with some features that are positive, but not entirely worked through. For one, the fully relieved hammer is not only stylish but affords less mass, to speed up lock time. The Elite also comes with full base pads that complete the profile of the grip. This is helpful in protecting the mags when they are dropped repeatedly during reloading drills or combat competition, but are still basically a cosmetic upgrade. The Brigadier slide is tastefully contoured and really makes the gun look special. But, it is no lighter than the standard 92 slide, a modification that can speed cycling, nor heavier for greater durability. The barrel is marginally shorter (about 0.25 inch) making it somewhat more concealable and perhaps faster to point. The upgraded sights did pay off, in our opinion, during the rapid-fire test. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]We were disappointed to note, however, that the Elite’s slide-to-frame fit is no different than on the standard model, and it was actually the least accurate of the three test guns from a sandbag rest. Also, the Elite trigger is still as heavy as the basic factory issue. These are two areas that are crucial to an “upgrade” truly performing better than a stock gun. [/FONT]

    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Gun Tests Recommends[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Taurus PT92AFS, $525. Buy it. This pistol should be capable of doing anything the higher-priced Berettas can do. Additionally, the availability of cocked-and-locked carry makes it more appealing. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]Beretta 92FS, $691. Conditional buy, if you can live without cocked-and-locked carry. But for all its positive traits, this stainless gun needs a better sighting system. Beretta Elite, $732. Conditional buy. The U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit has spent a lot of money and talent to make the M9 Beretta 9mm fit for the highest levels of competition. Hints of those technical advancements have filtered down to the Elite model, and if we were choosing between it and the FS, we’d spend the dollars for its features. [/FONT]
    Last edited: May 30, 2008
  8. maxx941

    maxx941 Guest

    PT92 AFS

    Hello Everyone I am a new member with a new PT92 AFS. Roughly 350 rounds at the range since purchase a month ago. No problems with the gun. Just learning to aim more accurately. The range I go to has the targets at 25 yards. I hope to learn much more here with some fellow owners.
  9. Hey Maxx, Welcome to the forum, you'll really love it hear. I'm pretty new to shooting and have learned more through this site than anyplace else. You'll find a great gang in here...some more opinionated than others but all really good folks. You may want to say hello in the introduction forum so people know you're here. Good luck from central Florida!
  10. dimapower

    dimapower Guest

    Just got mine about a week ago. Love the look and the feel. First 100 rounds of WWB seemed to shoot low at 7 yards. Seems to be getting better or I am compensating. Wife also shoots the HP .380 - has been an excellent performer.

    A few shots



  11. Beautiful photos, hard to believe people condemn Taurus quality, looks like a first rate piece of steel to me.
  12. Avenger11

    Avenger11 Guest

    It all comes down to personal finance, preference, and experience!! That is, if you have the finances, prefer quality, and the experience to know better, then a Taurus should not be on your list. Quality is spotty, customer service is poor and accuracy is predictably lousy.

  13. Owned a Taurus, have you? I've had three, they've been great, as good as anything else I've owned by Colt, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, etc. Better, actually, since I never had a problem with them. Can't say the same for the others.
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2008
  14. big boomer

    big boomer G&G Enthusiast

    I have a 92 with 15 round mags and its one of my favorite guns except for the dot on the front sight is hard to see but I will fix that with bright paint.
  15. dimapower

    dimapower Guest

    Broad generalizations such as this crack me up. Your experience may have been poor. That doesn't translate to "a Taurus should not be on your list." It may not be on YOUR list, but to others who have had great experiences (and I would predict that it's an overwhelming majority), it's on OUR list.

    And, while I have the financial means, prefer quality and have the experience (meets all of your criteria), I also am intelligent (not on your list). Thus, I see the exceptional value in this Taurus model.
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2008
  16. Avenger11

    Avenger11 Guest

    I was going to put intelligence on the list, but it seemed like a real stretch!!

  17. Go troll somewhere else you're not making any friends here. Don't like Taurus PT-92's? Go to another thread and flame them with your observations about a gun you've never owned and don't know anything about.
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2008
  18. Avenger11

    Avenger11 Guest

    Friends don,t let friends buy a Taurus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  19. dimapower

    dimapower Guest

    Sorry to hear. Don't be so hard on yourself. Some people are just not as intelligent as others. I would suggest, though, that you don't make it so obvious.
  20. i have a PT92AFS as well. Had it about 6 months, lost count on rounds, no issues