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The plot thickens in the Las Vegas debacle ...

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by gsbuickman, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. gsbuickman

    gsbuickman G&G Evangelist

    I wonder how long it's going to be before someone Blows the Whistle and says that the LVPD was ordered to stand down and/or drag their feet, just like when law enforcement was ordered to stand down recently when the neo-nazis and the antifa protest groups were deliberately brought together and allowed to Riot just to push the agenda. It wouldn't surprise me a bit since the same people that were behind that are undoubtedly behind this as well.
     
  2. blaster

    blaster G&G Evangelist

    ok, tighten your tin foil hats, heres something that I have thought about.:rolleyes: what if there was a bonafide sniper in that room also. maybe because the concert was Country music they were expecting the President or Vice President or other high ranking Republican to attend the concert. the sniper was to target him and Patterson was supposed to spray & pray to cover the assassination. when the big wig target didn't show, Patterson still shot up the place but the sniper killed him so he couldn't talk when captured and ruin any future assassination attempt???:rolleyes:o_O just a thought to boost the sale of tin foil. I think I am going to buy stock in Alcoa.;):D
     

  3. dhermesc

    dhermesc G&G Evangelist

    Actually this adds a lot more to the conspiracy stories:

    The hotel guard was actually shot about 10 minutes BEFORE Paddock started shooting out the window - not shortly afterwards like it was originally reported by MSM and the police. And it took the police about an hour and a half after the first shots (at the guard) to enter Paddock's hotel room.


    http://nypost.com/2017/10/09/hero-security-guard-was-shot-before-vegas-massacre-started/


    No one knows why Paddock only fired for 10 minutes at the crowd before killing himself.
     
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  4. john_r

    john_r G&G Evangelist

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    Didn’t Stephen Hunter use a plot like that a few novels?
     
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  5. TACAV

    TACAV G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

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    And now this...

    The one key witness to all of this, Campos, the hotel security guard has suddenly "disappeared" right before he was to have is major interview with all the major news networks.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/1...-disappears-moments-before-tv-interviews.html

    The Mandalay Bay security guard shot by Stephen Paddock in the moments leading up to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos' union president said.

    Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn't immediately clear where he was.

    “We were in a room and we came out and he was gone,” Campos' union president told reporters, according to ABC News’ Stephanie Wash.

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    Fox News' Sean Hannity tweeted out that Campos, who was scheduled to appear on "Hannity" Thursday night, “cancelled” his appearance.

    Little is known about Campos, with few pictures to emerge of the security guard and no apparent online footprint surfacing to provide details about one of the central figures in the mass shooting.
     
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  6. When reviewing situations and incidents like this, it's important to stick with the given evidence and try to figure out from there.

    In my personal opinion, interjecting a bunch of 'what-ifs' completely based on conjecture without evidence is counter-productive to being taken seriously. There was no indication Trump and co would be there at all anyway, so this is what even I would consider 'far-fetched' at best.

    Basically I look at things in a flowchart format...Why is XYZ present? Then list the possible reasons, based on other evidence in the area, or prior experience in other such events (such as the Bataclan shooting). Then run through a list of the potential players, using the concept of 'who stands to benefit'? And also consider who's had a history of similar activity in the past. If you have two children, one is known for stealing cookies, one is known for behaving, then when cookies come up missing it means you should really scrutinize the kid who's known to steal cookies. Doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty, but it's the starting point and the investigation branches out from there.

    All pieces must fit together for the puzzle to be visible. Thats why I get irritated by people who just gloss over evidence and try to streamline as if the pieces don't matter. All pieces should have a place. If you built a 500 piece puzzle, but only used 499 pieces, then you didn't complete the puzzle. And likewise you must filter out artificial pieces, because on that same puzzle if you find you have 501 pieces, then something doesn't fit, and must be scrutinized.

    A good example of a 501 piece puzzle is cops planting drugs or weapons at a scene. A good example of a 499 piece puzzle is the Vegas shooting.

    There may have been a sniper acting, but I haven't heard anything about a rifle being found or witnesses discussing such. However there was a video on the ground that indicated a shooter with a pistol. It was very poor quality with limited visibility, so questionable at best, but if there were pistol casings found on the ground, or another video from another angle, then that is evidence that should be investigated.

    I'm not saying this to stoke more discussion of the events, but to explain why it's important to stick with the evidence and piece the events together based upon such.
     
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  7. dhermesc

    dhermesc G&G Evangelist


    Agreed. The problem is every time you start putting the puzzle together some one swipes the pieces to the floor and dumps a pile of new pieces onto the table. How long did it take to even learn that a security guard was shot? Then it took 4 days to learn that he was shot BEFORE Paddock(?) started shooting out the window.

    So why was a security guard knocking on Paddock's door if he had done nothing to alert the hotel (as the media has reported without end)? Why were the police NOT called when someone fired 200 rounds in a hotel? **** in bathroom sink in casino hotel and see how fast the cops get called - let alone shoot off 200 rounds.
     
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  8. That security guard is a big piece of this puzzle. Possibly a player in the 'game'.

    His disappearance is of great concern in this matter.
     
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  9. Ten Man

    Ten Man G&G Evangelist

    Another one of those things that make you go, "Hmmmmmmmmmmm."

    In the immortal words of Alice (in Wonderland), "Curiouser, and curiouser."
     
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  10. gsbuickman

    gsbuickman G&G Evangelist

    It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the security guard turns up dead from an apparent suicide with five shots to the back of the head ...
     
  11. Funny enough, I just got off the phone with my father where I said that I expect him to either turn up dead, or be missing completely, never to be found.

    One question I have is if he turns up, how will we know for certain it's him? Again we're trusting 'fake news' sources to tell us the truth, something I am unwilling to place my faith in.
     
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  12. john_r

    john_r G&G Evangelist

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    Maybe he got stage fright.
     
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  13. Ten Man

    Ten Man G&G Evangelist

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  15. gsbuickman

    gsbuickman G&G Evangelist

    Gee, dead Witnesses, who woulda thunk it ?. Textbook government mop-up operation, just like the videos being scrubbed from the net of the shooter on the ground that's chasing people around and shooting at them ...
     
  16. john_r

    john_r G&G Evangelist

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    Died in her sleep, from the stress? How very Victorian. Pass the smelling salts.

    How do we believe even this news story?
     
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  17. Junction15

    Junction15 G&G Evangelist

    So my question is: Who, or what organization, has the money and power to silence the law enforcement arm of the US Government? Who has the absolute control needed to suppress information and silence the witnesses involved?
    Or is this all just a coincidence? (I don't believe in coincidences.)
    No, I don't think Trump could do that and keep it quiet. And it would have to be larger than the DNC.
     
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  18. big shrek

    big shrek G&G Evangelist

    Bilderburg.

    Or the Order of St. Hubertus could do it...easily.
     
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  19. I noticed that video had disappeared too. Either scrubbed, or buried in the search engine algorithm so far it can't be easily retrieved.

    Geeze this whole thing reeks.
     
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  20. Do you have a link to that article? I'm trying to follow along as this plays out.

    ::EDIT:: Never mind lol, it's at the end of the link you posted. My apologies.